The Brothers of John the Steadfast – Where Clergy Domination is Waning…

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A “dominator” or cut out Cool Whip container?

Naperville, IL — While the claim of clericalism and clergy domination continues to sell tickets to the latest and greatest fifteen year old fad conferences (then again how long ago was the Korah1440BC Conference?  Numbers 16?), something has been happening at the Brothers of John the Steadfast – the inclusion of more and more laity in writing and confessing the faith of the Evangelical Lutheran Church.  While the clergy collars may still be seen and the phrase “pastor” still used, it seems that the normal “domination” associated with these things is waning (or maybe it was never there).

Now rather than tout itself as a lay-revolution led by casually-clad reverends who direct, organize, and give vision to the organization, the editors of the Brothers of John the Steadfast seemed to have taken note that all of the baptized are given to confess the faith and that in particular the Lutheran Church has a rich heritage of lay-theologians.  The evidence  that points this out is of course the authorship of three of the Confessional symbols found in the Book of Concord by Phillip Melancthon, the confession made at Augsburg by laymen who were princes and rulers, and various other things which go against every stereotype that is thrown at the more traditional types of Lutherans.

Listed now are those faithful laymen who have been so clergy-dominated as to now write for the clericalists at BJS:

Mr. Scott Diekmann, Mr. Norm Fisher (also serving as web guru and all around technical guy), Mr. T.R. Halvorson, Dr. Matthew Phillips, Mr. Jim Pierce, Mr. Nathan Redman, Mr. Jonathan Rodebaugh, Mr. Miguel Ruiz,  Mr. Tim Wood, and Mr. Brian Yamabe.

On top of this there are even faithful laywomen who contribute articles to the site.

Don’t let any of this fool you, this is clearly meant to mask the hidden domination that eventually is planned to allow nothing but round-collars (and the occasional tab) to speak anywhere ever.

 

About Pastor Joshua Scheer

Pastor Joshua Scheer is the Senior Pastor of Our Savior Lutheran Church in Cheyenne, Wyoming. He is also the Editor-in-chief of Brothers of John the Steadfast. He oversees all of the work done by Steadfast Lutherans. He is a regular host of Concord Matters on KFUO. Pastor Scheer and his lovely wife Holly (who writes and manages the Katie Luther Sisters) have four children and enjoy living in Wyoming.

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The Brothers of John the Steadfast – Where Clergy Domination is Waning… — 23 Comments

  1. “…all of the baptized are given to confess the faith and that in particular the Lutheran Church has a rich heritage of lay-theologians.”

    As the sainted Robert Preus liked to ask (rhetorically, of course):

    How can you be confessional if you don’t confess?

  2. “On top of this there are even faithful laywomen who contribute articles to the site.”

    Apparently, the women’s voices are not important enough to be recognized by name.
    How sad that they are still second class.

  3. @jim #2

    Dort Preus is listed as a contributor in the right-hand column.

    Kari Anderson has shared stuff about the work of the CLCC.

    Mollie Hemingway has had her articles posted here, and has contributed in the discussion.

    There’s three examples. Happy now?

    (( typo corrected ))

  4. jim :
    Apparently, the women’s voices are not important enough to be recognized by name.
    How sad that they are still second class.

    Not meaning to imply that you might be a liar – but is it really completely and absolutely impossible and inconceivable that there could be other reasons and motivations at work when it comes to why the women who have contributed to this site within a reasonably recent past are not listed by name along with the men who have committed to write for this page than that they are “not important enough” and ” still second class” -as you claim for a fact that they are not, and that they are, and that the motivation is?
    Could it be, perhaps, for example, that although they have contributed with guest articles they have never agreed to have their names appear in a list of people who have committed to “write for” this site – as opposed to the men mentioned?

    Oops. I guess I just did imply that you might be a liar. Sorry about that – I guess …

  5. @jim #2 “Apparently, the women’s voices are not important enough to be recognized by name. How sad that they are still second class.”
    Not to anyone important. My husband, my pastor, and the respected Confessional men who post on here give me just as much consideration as anyone. I have nothing at all to complain about. Funny that a man would talk for us Confessional sisters in Christ.

  6. @jim #2
    Jim, you miss the point.

    We have a number of women who write, but not regularly. They occasionally do. BJS started with Mollie Hemingway writing for us. Dort Preus has joined us from time to time. Kari Andersen did some work for us with the CLCC stuff. My wife Holly Scheer writes articles for us. Vanessa Rasanen also writes every once in a while. I think I have had some others write guest posts at my specific invitation.

    Second class? Hardly, just not the point of this article which really spotlights our recently added laymen.

    BJS is also working to reestablish something we worked on a few years ago, the Sisters of Katie Luther… but I suppose that is only meant to place them in another class…. Have you read your Bible lately?

    Sheesh.

  7. @Pastor Joshua Scheer #6

    I’m not a member of the PC Police, but I winced a bit when I read that sentence. Perhaps the word “even” is what set some folks off. It does seem a bit dismissive and condescending, even if not intended. The point you were making was somewhat obscured by what can best be described as an unfortunate choice of words.

  8. @Joe Strieter #7
    The point you were making was somewhat obscured by what can best be described as an unfortunate choice of words.

    “Also” might have been better than “even”… but we’ve survived worse. 🙂

  9. It’s good to have some women, but not too many! Cluck cluck cluck, amirite? Not to mention they’re just going to change their minds halfway through their article and act all upset when you don’t know why. It’s nobody’s fault though- it’s all in the menses.

  10. @Pastor Joshua Scheer #6
    BJS is also working to reestablish something we worked on a few years ago, the Sisters of Katie Luther… but I suppose that is only meant to place them in another class…. Have you read your Bible lately?

    Don’t know what that last ? is supposed to mean, but has it occurred to you that if the women were anxious for a hen party, they’d have had it up and running long ago?

    “Sheesh.” 😉

  11. @Pastor Joshua Scheer #6 “BJS is also working to reestablish something we worked on a few years ago, the Sisters of Katie Luther… but I suppose that is only meant to place them in another class….”
    Pastor Scheer, I was not offended by the article or your later comments, as some apparently were. However, I personally hope you do not reestablish a site specifically for women. I used to want that, but since being a regular reader of this blog, I guess you could say my faith has matured to the point that I now see this desire as misguided. I have been in “women’s” Bible studies, ladies’ circles and the like, over the years, and have witnessed how they can be harmful. Some of my most respected, mature, Confessional sisters think as I do. The more we mature in the faith, the less we want to be segregated. Give us the spiritual headship we need! It is good to have men dominating the writing pool as well as the comment lines. I do not want to sound feminist. That is not my intent. But if this Katie Luther site gets reestablished will I no longer be welcomed on BJS?

  12. @LadyM #14
    Pastor Scheer,

    I along with LadyM want to continue to be welcomed on BJS. I devour the deep Lutheran theology that is on this site. It is so important that we in the Lutheran Church NOT be satisfied with the pablum of dumb-downed Lutheran/Biblical theology. Lutherans have always been bookish and we highly value education. Yes, there may be some who just want the basics. However, most Lutheran women want to be challenged to learn ‘the whole counsel of God’. Lutheran Women Unite!

    In Christ,
    Diane

  13. Pastor Joshua Scheer :
    @Joe Strieter #7
    Ok. Was there any satire in the post?

    It was somewhat light-hearted, but even at that, I’d have to say that the paragraph in question didn’t quite bring off the satire you intended. As I said, I’m not the PC police, so I won’t be turning you in, or asking you to submit all your sermons, your correspondence, or your C.V.

  14. It seems my gender isn’t a barrier to those here at BJS, who encourage laymen like me to submit articles. It hasn’t stopped them, nor has my gender been mentioned. Whether I ever finish even one of the now ten outlines or starts is another matter.

  15. “While the clergy collars may still be seen and the phrase “pastor” still used, it seems that the normal “domination” associated with these things is waning (or maybe it was never there)…”

    Perhaps many pastors would like to post but are afraid to for fear of reprimand from the higher ups

  16. I am a layman and I was expelled from BJS some years ago. This site does not foster honest discussion of theology. Instead it promotes narrow and prejudiced theological and social
    thinking.

  17. @Norman Teigen #21

    I don’t agree.  I’m just a ordinary-grumpy (not confessional) Lutheran layman and BJS has always treated me with respect and patience.  BJS doesn’t tolerate continual trollish personal comments.  I don’t know the circumstances of your expulsion.

  18. @Norman Teigen #21

    I am a layman and I was expelled from BJS some years ago.

    Well, Norman, it looks like you are back, if you want to be.
    How about trying again, a shade more politely? As Rixe said, he’s here regularly, though a bit more liberal than some of us “narrow” types might appreciate sometimes. 🙂

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