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Another Reason to Have the Corpus on the Cross, by Pr. Rossow
@R.D. #38 Yes - but that truth is exactly what those who reject the atonement - and accordingly also reject the imagery that corresponds to and proclaims the Biblical truth of atonement - wish to escape: that there ever was a need for atonement between God and us, because we really owe it to God not to sin, and it is really evil of us that we sin, for we really are not allowed to, and it really is ...
    Jais H. Tinglund at Apr 22 2014 11:41 pm

Another Reason to Have the Corpus on the Cross, by Pr. Rossow
@Carl H #37 Wait...I thought Christ suffered and died because of me *and* for ...
    R.D. at Apr 22 2014 10:52 pm

Another Reason to Have the Corpus on the Cross, by Pr. Rossow
As I recall from a trip to South America: For some cultures still influenced by old-world pre-Reformation Roman Catholicism, an image of the suffering Christ reverberates with a message of guilt -- not, "Christ suffered and died for you," but, "Christ suffered and died because of you." And that is why some bringers of the Gospel -- as well as some Protestant converts previously burdened by such guilt -- avoid the ...
    Carl H at Apr 22 2014 07:53 pm

ACELC -- Can There Be Koinonia in Worship?
Considering "former" the operative term, I would suggest you consider any guilt of yours regarding this shameful celebration borne and taken away by the Lamb of God, and so lay any and all shame in that regard aside, rejoicing that it is no longer yours; not because somebody else did the shameful thing, as much, but rather because Someone Else has taken it from you ...
    Jais H. Tinglund at Apr 22 2014 03:34 pm

ACELC -- Can There Be Koinonia in Worship?
I'm ashamed to say that they ended the service with Kool and the Gang's "Celebration"at my former Nazarene church on Easter Sunday ...
    J. Dean at Apr 22 2014 02:41 pm

Another Reason to Have the Corpus on the Cross, by Pr. Rossow
Rev. David Mueller : I will not give up my crucifix, period. Well, neither would I. My point is that neither will I spit and wheeze at the sight of an empty cross - unless somebody would say something about only the empty cross being legitimate, and backing it up with obviously flawed reasoning such as: 1) the banal and inconsequential observation that "He is not really hanging there anymore" - ...
    Jais H. Tinglund at Apr 22 2014 01:41 pm

Another Reason to Have the Corpus on the Cross, by Pr. Rossow
David M, Yes, Gumbi (St. Louis Sem Chapel) is a silly crucifix. It does not speak "given and shed" for you. As to Heidlberg, order Uruus Saarnivaara's "Luther Discovers the Gospel" from CPH, as a matter of fact every Lutheran should read this book, and you will never look at Heidlberg the same ...
    Pastor Tim Rossow at Apr 22 2014 12:54 pm

Redeeming Holy Days from Pagan Lies-Easter 2
@B Payan #3 With regard to the first part, yes, I could have worded it more clearly. Christ ate the Passover meal with his disciples. In the Jewish development of this feast after the destruction of the Temple the egg was introduced to represent the Temple. This representation was consistent with the way the egg was used in funerals at the time of Jesus earthly ministry. With regard to the second ...
    Joe Abrahamson at Apr 22 2014 12:21 pm

Another Reason to Have the Corpus on the Cross, by Pr. Rossow
@Jais H. Tinglund #32 Pearl S. Buck, in "The Good Earth", has a scene where the protagonist is in Shanghai or some other huge city where he has the opportunity to run across Europeans and Americans. He has an encounter with a representation (don't remember what kind--I read it 30 years ago this year and not since) of Christ on the cross. He understands that the "missionary" who shows it to him is ...
    Rev. David Mueller at Apr 22 2014 11:38 am

Another Reason to Have the Corpus on the Cross, by Pr. Rossow
@Pastor Tim Rossow #9 I will grant that there is a noticeable "progression" in Luther's thought and writings over time. But I can't get around the Heidelberg Disputation--stills hits my eyes and ears as phenomenally profound and "mature". And "Lutheran". I find myself quoting the HD quite often in ...
    Rev. David Mueller at Apr 22 2014 11:29 am

Tolkien and the Great Easter Eucatastrophe
Who knows how many the Holy Spirit has prepared for the Primary Story that is our Life and Heart by Tolkien's secondary art of the Lord of the Rings, the Silmarillion, the Hobbit, and his other works. I know at least ...
    Rev. David Mueller at Apr 22 2014 11:19 am

ACELC -- Can There Be Koinonia in Worship?
The whole contemporary worship thing is a self-conceited and self-deluded exercise, really ... the practitioner basically Christianise that which is even considered extreme by the world (for that is precisely what contemporary worship is) for a religious or holy setting, that which is "over-the-top" and thinks that his self-produced feelings and gratification (of the lust for self-gratification) is the presence of the Holy Spirit! It borders on ...
    Jason Loh at Apr 22 2014 10:34 am

ACELC -- Can There Be Koinonia in Worship?
A hearty Amen to the ACELC 7 Theses on Worship! Speaking from practical experience in the LWF-affiliated Lutheran Church in Malaysia (LCM): There should be no compromise on the issue of worship ... doctrine and worship go together ... Here in the LCM, there is neither doctrine nor worship, to put it simply. But as the local English goes, "what 'to' do?" ... Even in the congregation that I attend which is already by far and large the ...
    Jason Loh at Apr 22 2014 10:27 am

Jesus' Resurrection Affects our Life
A college friend of mine is an ELCA pastor. On his Facebook page at Easter the comment came up that believing in a bodily resurrection is optional in the ...
    Paul of Alexandria at Apr 22 2014 08:43 am

Church Constitution and Bylaws -- what works, what doesn't?
BJR, Yes! But I would add a couple of things that take it even further. Forget the Church Council and have a Board of Trustees instead. This is what Walther had - Trustees to manage the temporal affairs and Elders to assist the pastor as he makes his plans for administering word and sacrament. Also, do as Walther did and name the chairman rightly. He is the chairman of the voters assembly, not the chairman of the congregation or a ...
    Pastor Tim Rossow at Apr 22 2014 07:56 am

Church Constitution and Bylaws -- what works, what doesn't?
Get rid of all committees except council and elders. Pastor chooses Elders and they are ratified by the voters. They handle right-hand matters and closely related items. Elders identify twice as many nominees for council as will serve, and the slate is ratified by voters. Then, they are drawn out of a hat. I think our previous year's council selects 2 nominees for church president, and that is drawn out of hat. Special purpose committees can ...
    BJR at Apr 21 2014 09:32 pm

Another Reason to Have the Corpus on the Cross, by Pr. Rossow
This discussion could easily become a bit similar to the discussion about Universal Justification. Somebody says that as a Christian you are definitely not allowed to do this or that, or to say this and that, and they support this claim with obvious misunderstandings. And then one gets engaged in defending one's freedom to this or that, and the Scriptural propriety of doing this and that. And suddenly it seems as if, by defending what others ...
    Jais H. Tinglund at Apr 21 2014 02:55 pm

Redeeming Holy Days from Pagan Lies-Easter 2
"The egg was introduced to the Passover meal after the Temple was destroyed in 70 A.D." How was this the case if, 40-or-so years earlier you also state that "In the celebration of the Passover meal, which Christ celebrated the night before He was crucified, a roasted whole egg is placed as one of six food items on the Passover plate". I'm confused by this, unless you mean that Christ did NOT have an egg with his meal. A little clarity on ...
    B Payan at Apr 21 2014 01:26 pm

Another Reason to Have the Corpus on the Cross, by Pr. Rossow
There were of course three "empty crosses" on Easter morning, but only one resurection, so I don't quite see how a Christless cross is a symbol of the ...
    Matt Mills at Apr 21 2014 11:08 am

Church Constitution and Bylaws -- what works, what doesn't?
I think the flaw is in the assumptions of the political system at its root. The Protestant methodology of constantly democratically electing officers for various aspects of the church, is found nowhere in the Scriptures. What is found, is a much more robust usage of the office of Deacon. In the early church, and through the Reformation period as I remember my readings, it was common to train certain volunteers for particular services in the ...
    Brad at Apr 21 2014 09:34 am

ACELC -- Can There Be Koinonia in Worship?
@John Rixe #4 None of the admonitions from the ACELC are "extremest," though there are those who would like to label us as such. I still wonder what it is that the COP and others cannot or refuse to see in this group to criticize, especially in light of their earnest desire to follow Pres. Harrison's guidelines in "It's Time" which talk of the grassroots efforts needed to bring about change in the ...
    LadyM at Apr 21 2014 07:24 am

C.S. Lewis and the Grand Miracle of Easter
Very good quotes. Love Lewis. Incidentally, I believe he uses a quote from Luther in the beginning of The Screwtape ...
    J. Dean at Apr 20 2014 08:56 pm

Church Constitution and Bylaws -- what works, what doesn't?
In my parish the "candidates" are chosen by the leadership of the church and no one can be nominated from the floor. Sometime before the annual meeting the board members are announced and a report printed on the budget. At the meeting we can only affirm the members by voice vote. No new business. Why bother to show up is a common statement. Hard to believe this form of polity is tolerated but understood why they like ...
    Paul at Apr 20 2014 07:47 pm

Another Reason to Have the Corpus on the Cross, by Pr. Rossow
The priest at a Roman Catholic wedding, I attended, spoke well on this subject. A repairman, repairing hurricane damage to the Church, asked the question, " When are you Roman Catholics going to get Jesus down off that cross ?" The priest's reply was " The Crucifix shows us, that He just loved us to death." I say ...
    Gary W. Moss at Apr 20 2014 07:16 pm

C.S. Lewis and the Grand Miracle of Easter
“…though the Witch knew the Deep Magic, there is a magic deeper still which she did not know. Her knowledge goes back only to the dawn of time. But if she could have looked a little further back, into the stillness and the darkness before time dawned, she would have read there a different incantation. She would have known that if a willing victim, who had committed no treachery, was killed in a traitor’s stead, the Table would crack and ...
    Abby at Apr 20 2014 02:15 pm

ACELC -- Can There Be Koinonia in Worship?
These theses seem reasonable - not at all extremist.  I believe that LCMS could come to an 85% consensus on them.  They should be the basis for Koinonia worship ...
    John Rixe at Apr 20 2014 09:21 am

Another Reason to Have the Corpus on the Cross, by Pr. Rossow
@Pastor Tim Rossow #14 The resurrection is sweet comfort indeed but it is icing on the cake. The cake is the body which is given and shed for us. The resurrection shows us that our bodies will rise some day but they were going to rise whether Jesus rose from the dead or not. He was already alive before the resurrection. After all, he went and preached victory to the devil and those in hell. The ...
    helen at Apr 20 2014 08:34 am

Another Reason to Have the Corpus on the Cross, by Pr. Rossow
Yes it is Judy. It says several things. It says that we are fools if we do not teach the resurrection because if it is not true then all the Gospel is called into question, we are left in our sins. It also points out that the death and resurrection cannot be separated. They are one piece. Most importantly for this discussion is that it points out that the sting of death is sin and as I mention in the post, death is paid for on the cross. ...
    Pastor Tim Rossow at Apr 20 2014 08:07 am

Another Reason to Have the Corpus on the Cross, by Pr. Rossow
1 Corinthians 15 is interesting in this ...
    Judy at Apr 20 2014 07:52 am

ACELC -- Can There Be Koinonia in Worship?
There is music of the "pop" variety in LSB... or the electronic version... IMHO. But you don't need it unless you've been brainwashed by "7-11" on the radio. When I was a kid, nobody told us we couldn't sing, so we just did. Like ducks swam, and robins flew. And men who hadn't been past 8th grade raised the church rafters with the liturgy and Lutheran hymns. (They were almost all Krusty Krauts, BTW) God didn't make most of us Pavarotti, but ...
    helen at Apr 20 2014 07:51 am