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A Call to Distinctively Lutheran Scouting
@Pr. Mark Schroeder #11
Mark, the issue of unionism and syncretism is another aspect of these groups that should be considered and you are absolutely right, the pan-religious nature of groups nowadays hurts the confession of the faith once delivered to the ...
Pastor Joshua Scheer at May 24 2013 09:55 am
A Call to Distinctively Lutheran Scouting
Boy Scouts of America: What the Policy Change Means
A statement by the Rev. Bart Day, Executive Director, Office of National Mission
The Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod
May 24, 2013
On Thursday, May 23, 2013, a vote changed history. The Boy Scouts of America (BSA) voted yesterday to end its 103-year ban on allowing gay Scouts in the organization. Prior to the vote, The Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (LCMS) spoke against this proposed ...
"LC-MS Quotes" at May 24 2013 09:55 am
A Call to Distinctively Lutheran Scouting
@ #14 "...crap out there."
@ #17 "The crap...this xyz..."
Watch your words.
Matthew C. Harrison
President Harrison on the Newtown, Conn., Statement of Unity and Pastoral Letters
February 11, ...
"LC-MS Quotes" at May 24 2013 09:50 am
A Call to Distinctively Lutheran Scouting
@Rev. Mathew Andersen #17: "These are kids we are talking about – many of whom do not want to be gay and are asking for help."
To place those who "do not want to be gay and are asking for help" into an organization that no longer recognizes the moral depravity of homosexuality, but respects and honors such perversion is the sin of child abuse.
The rest of your ranting speaks more about you ...
Carl Vehse at May 24 2013 09:49 am
A Call to Distinctively Lutheran Scouting
@Robert Franck #10
Robert,
I understand you are trying to describe a decent situation with someone struggling with the fruit of original sin in a specific way, but the history of this and the very lobby to get it shows we are not dealing with those who "struggle" with this, but those who have embraced it and want to live in it (and then die in it).
@Rev. ...
Pastor Joshua Scheer at May 24 2013 09:49 am
A Call to Distinctively Lutheran Scouting
@Rev. Paul Mumme #14
The difference is that Scouting tries to bless these self-centered attitudes with God. For many Reformed (et al) and Mormon churches, this is fine with their theology. Even Catholics can be okay with scouting through their ecclesiactical beliefs. But for Lutherans, this gets into an ugly gray area, on the darker side. This blending leads to heterodox type environments, ...
Jason at May 24 2013 09:49 am
A Call to Distinctively Lutheran Scouting
@ #14
Whenever anyone presumes to criticize a popular person or institution or opinion he is in for a lot of adverse criticism himself. For instance, as long as our Synod speaks out against such general and recognized evils as covetousness, worldliness, gossip, etc., the world and our fellow Lutherans take little apparent notice of our testimony. But when we venture to find fault with certain aspects of some popular, respected institution ...
"LC-MS Quotes" at May 24 2013 09:46 am
A Call to Distinctively Lutheran Scouting
@Robert Franck #10: "But truly, what about all the people with homosexual inclinations or temptations who RECOGNIZE the moral depravity of that behavior and do NOT want to sin in that way?"
You are splashing the waters of NABLA newspeak.
Your alleged people, who recognize homosexuality as sinful, would be hypocrites or liars if they joined the new Boy Sodomy Association, which no longer ...
Carl Vehse at May 24 2013 09:36 am
A Call to Distinctively Lutheran Scouting
Vehse
Knock it off
These are kids we are talking about - many of whom do not want to be gay and are asking for help.
The crap coming out of your keyboard is literally satanic and the fact you are allowed to post this xyz is a clear indication of how far down the sewer this board has ...
Rev. Mathew Andersen at May 24 2013 09:32 am
A Call to Distinctively Lutheran Scouting
A future Boy Scout campfire scene:
"Let me help you with the Scout Oath, especially that 'morally straight' ...
Carl Vehse at May 24 2013 09:18 am
A Call to Distinctively Lutheran Scouting
On May 16, 2013, twenty-six people from various religious organizations signed a joint letter expressing concerns about the proposal to allow homosexuals into Scouting.
Here is graph (click to enlarge) showing how 1.8 million treacherous people have worked for ...
Carl Vehse at May 24 2013 09:16 am
A Call to Distinctively Lutheran Scouting
If scouting engenders in children a spirit of pride and self-righteousness, then so do sports, music, drama, and countless other youth activities (apart from the general we're all equal and no one wins and no one is any better at something than anyone else crap out there).
The athlete strives to play his best and win. That opens the door to pride and self-righteousness. "Look what I accomplished!"
The musician strives to play or sing her ...
Rev. Paul Mumme at May 24 2013 09:15 am
A Call to Distinctively Lutheran Scouting
"Another thing we need to learn is that a generic confession of belief in “God” in such organizations IS NOT THE SAME GOD THAT WE WORSHIP. No matter how you cut it, the Trinity is not confessed by generic statements of belief or vows to “god” (or even “God”)."
We find fault with certain aspects of Scoutism. Of course, we wouldn't dream of objecting to the camping, the training in crafts, the activities in sports, and the social ...
"LC-MS Quotes" at May 24 2013 08:48 am
A Call to Distinctively Lutheran Scouting
Mark @11: Thanks for your post. While I'm sure there are many who do their good deeds to earn righteousness in God's eyes and/or the world's eyes, that is not what scouting is about. A Scout earns his merit badges and ranks by learning, applying himself, and working hard, no different than a student studies to acquire knowledge and earn a good grade on his test, an employee works hard to do his job and perhaps even receive a promotion, etc. I ...
Rev. Paul Mumme at May 24 2013 08:46 am
Caricatures of Catholicism: Mary
@Roger #43
You make a good case Roger. It sounds a bit like hair splitting, but again ... who can give a definitive meaning of the greek κεχαριτωμενη (graced one) ?
Any terms without clear explanation can be abused either way. And how do we find the clear definition of κεχαριτωμενη ...
RomGabe at May 24 2013 08:04 am
Pastoral Care - something to talk about.
And don't underestimate the importance of bringing the sacrament! About fifteen years ago I was very ill, first in the hospital, then at home for a couple of months. Our pastor, who was a very nice man, visited me in the hospital and again a few times after I got home, but he never brought me communion. We prayed before he left each time, but mostly he just came to visit. I was too muddled at the time to ASK him to bring communion, but I also ...
indianajane at May 24 2013 08:02 am
Pastoral Care - something to talk about.
Great article. My daughter is dating a fine young man who goes to the "happy" church as they call it. A reformed church that teaches a person MUST be happy all the time. She said the church service doesnt not have a sermon, no law and Gospel, no Lords Prayer, or Apostle's Creed....it just has lessons on how to be happy and then they sing happy songs. My daugther, growing up in a traditional Lutheran church, sees the difference. My church ...
Binny at May 24 2013 07:55 am
A Call to Distinctively Lutheran Scouting
Three more thoughts, with the disclaimer that I never have been in scouts nor wanted to be:
1. "I did my good deed today" If I do my duty to God and do my good deeds then I earn my merit badges, then I am a good person. I have always been quite uncomfortable with the works righteousness of scouting. As a pastor, if I participated in even a Blue/Gold dinner, I got a certificate for it!
2. Pr. Scheer, to put a bold-face on the syncretism ...
Pr. Mark Schroeder at May 24 2013 07:54 am
A Call to Distinctively Lutheran Scouting
Of course, we all saw what "celibate homosexual" clergy led to in the ELCA. But truly, what about all the people with homosexual inclinations or temptations who RECOGNIZE the moral depravity of that behavior and do NOT want to sin in that way? All too often, they are rejected by Christians instead of supported by us. Being tempted to sin in a particular way, whatever that is, should not automatically make a person ineligible for most ...
Robert Franck at May 24 2013 07:48 am
A Call to Distinctively Lutheran Scouting
@Marc from Cincy #5 I am still angry, so I may not be thinking clearly. My inclination is to stay in until December 31, 2013 until the new rules come into effect in the hopes that a Lutheran or other alternative will become ...
David C. Busby at May 24 2013 07:30 am
A Call to Distinctively Lutheran Scouting
@Robert Franck #6: "If it means sexually attracted to the same sex, but not acting that out, isn’t that good?"
Homosexuality, as well as bankrobbery, murder, greed, idolatry, and other disobedience to God's will, occur within thought, word, and ...
Carl Vehse at May 24 2013 07:23 am
Caricatures of Catholicism: Mary
@Pastor Tim Rossow #40
I see your point. I say it probably just because it is stupid.
But we're supposed to be polite on this list! ...
helen at May 24 2013 07:18 am
A Call to Distinctively Lutheran Scouting
Lutheran Scout leaders probably saw this coming, with 60 percent of local BSA leaders voting to turn the organization into Boy Sodomy Association (and it will not be long before NABLA is invited to sponsor a troop. The letter President Harrison wrote earlier in March and the subsequent May 16, 2013 joint letter he signed were indications of the impending decision. ...
Carl Vehse at May 24 2013 07:11 am
Caricatures of Catholicism: Mary
On the "Immaculate Conception" of Mary: If Mary had been sinless from the moment of her conception, why would she have referred to God as her Savior in the Magnificat as recorded by Luke? As I reflect on the power of the Word as given in Holy Absolution, I wonder if it may be appropriate to refer to Mary not as being sinless from the moment of her conception but rather as being absolved from the moment of her conception. This would help to ...
Roger at May 24 2013 07:03 am
A Call to Distinctively Lutheran Scouting
What does "gay" mean, anyway? If it means sexually attracted to the same sex, but not acting that out, isn't that good? As I read it, boys who are sexually attracted to boys BUT NOT ENGAGING IN SEX are able to be boy ...
Robert Franck at May 24 2013 06:58 am
A Call to Distinctively Lutheran Scouting
Looking for advice, brothers.
I have a boy in the BSA program and he is loving it. I'm with Paul (comment #1) on pulling out, but my question is timing. The BSA (in)decision takes effect Jan 1, I understand. Should we a) Pull him out immediately anyway on principle or b) Wait to do so until AHG, On My Honor, or even LCMS creates an alternative program for boys as likely will happen over the next several months?
I'm sure there are a lot of ...
Marc from Cincy at May 24 2013 06:01 am
A Call to Distinctively Lutheran Scouting
oh, sorry, i missed the passage where you mentioned wels/els. yes, right, ...
conqueror in progress at May 24 2013 04:34 am
A Call to Distinctively Lutheran Scouting
wells never wanted to have anything to do with the boy and girl scouts, because of the church fellowship ...
conqueror in progress at May 24 2013 04:32 am
Steadfast Media Pick of the Week -- Responding to Evangelical Proof Texts: 1 Corinthians 9:22
Just classic. Thanks for posting ...
RomGabe at May 24 2013 03:58 am
Pastoral Care - something to talk about.
@wineonthevines #5
valid observation ... the vanity of going after the pleasures of our Old Adam, and the low-view/non-catechized of the Eucharist. No wonder, Dr. Luther wrote in the intro of the Small Catechism that we should read and re-read this small instructional book all our lives (and even memorize) lest we should forget ... the only exception is if one happens to be a Chuch Doctor (aka ...
RomGabe at May 24 2013 03:41 am
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