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Vanessa was Disappointed by Her Phone Call to St. Louis, by Pr. Rossow
Pr. Rossow, I think you know the answers to your questions. It means we have a heterodox synod, because heterodoxy is openly tolerated and/or promoted by those whose vocations it is to publicly rebuke it. So I suppose, the real question is what we shall do, as an orthodox smattering of individuals and congregations within a heterodox synod. If the intent is reform of the various institutions, it would seem that: -- Orthodox ...
    Brad at Oct 31 2014 02:54 pm

Rejected by FiveTwo: How I Failed My Sacramental Entrepreneur Aptitude Test - Guest Article by Vanessa
Well done, Vanessa!!!! Good for you to call them on the carpet. I'm telling you, based on what I've seen on those seven marks, you could write a book on the problems with much in those statements. I still say somebody should go to them and boldly tell them that perhaps they would be at home in a non-denominational setting rather than a Lutheran ...
    J. Dean at Oct 31 2014 02:53 pm

Rejected by FiveTwo: How I Failed My Sacramental Entrepreneur Aptitude Test - Guest Article by Vanessa
An overture to overturn the CCM ruling banning ecclesiastical supervision by the Synodical President of individual pastors and churches would be even more appropriate, in my opinion. It's impossible for me to imagine Walther being bound not to talk to an individual pastor except through his DP, and there is a precedent otherwise from the 1970's that the CCM did not take into account in their fairly recent ...
    Carol Broome at Oct 31 2014 02:52 pm

Rejected by FiveTwo: How I Failed My Sacramental Entrepreneur Aptitude Test - Guest Article by Vanessa
I don't believe that this issue is with one pastor, but rather with an organization. Hence I don't really see how the DRP ...
    Carol Broome at Oct 31 2014 02:48 pm

Rejected by FiveTwo: How I Failed My Sacramental Entrepreneur Aptitude Test - Guest Article by Vanessa
Those are hard words but true Randy. I would add this. As far as I know, President Harrison and his team would support resolutions to address the current DRP to make it less ...
    Pastor Tim Rossow at Oct 31 2014 02:40 pm

Rejected by FiveTwo: How I Failed My Sacramental Entrepreneur Aptitude Test - Guest Article by Vanessa
Vanessa, Nice job in every aspect. I emailed the synod and received this response: "Dear Randy, Thank you for taking the time to write and share your concerns about an LCMS pastor. We are so sorry to hear of concern. It’s important to know that our Synod is designed in such a way that matters such as these are handled through a church worker’s district office. Either of these two individuals in the district office – the circuit ...
    Randy at Oct 31 2014 02:36 pm

Vanessa was Disappointed by Her Phone Call to St. Louis, by Pr. Rossow
To say something on topic for your post, though. (Although the Cubs and kittens are really never off topic.) I reread Pastor Craig Stanford's essay today on the 3 walls preventing reform in The LC-MS. It's a timely reminder that things haven't really changed much from Luther's day to ours. The main trouble Luther got into was for questioning the Pope and the church hierarchy. If he had restrained himself on those points, he might well have ...
    Rev. George Naylor at Oct 31 2014 02:33 pm

Vanessa was Disappointed by Her Phone Call to St. Louis, by Pr. Rossow
> doesn’t mean that we should put up with a heterodox synod because it allows us to suffer. Right. And I am no expert by any means. I am not at all sure the other way (walking) is wrong and would not accuse anyone of wrong in so doing. I used to ask a dear old pastor about this (why don't we just leave). He always said the same thing, which was that the little groups that left descended into legalism. This pastor and the ...
    mbw at Oct 31 2014 02:28 pm

Vanessa was Disappointed by Her Phone Call to St. Louis, by Pr. Rossow
Well, being a Cubs fan is a purifying kind of suffering. It prepares us for the eschaton. ...
    Rev. George Naylor at Oct 31 2014 02:21 pm

Vanessa was Disappointed by Her Phone Call to St. Louis, by Pr. Rossow
George, Too make it worse, I am also a Cubs ...
    Pastor Tim Rossow at Oct 31 2014 02:19 pm

Vanessa was Disappointed by Her Phone Call to St. Louis, by Pr. Rossow
A man holding a kitten should not ...
    Rev. George Naylor at Oct 31 2014 02:09 pm

Vanessa was Disappointed by Her Phone Call to St. Louis, by Pr. Rossow
Very good point MBW. Of course that doesn't mean that we should put up with a heterodox synod because it allows us to suffer. ...
    Pastor Tim Rossow at Oct 31 2014 01:43 pm

Vanessa was Disappointed by Her Phone Call to St. Louis, by Pr. Rossow
> What does it mean that it is more likely that I, the one who raises these questions, were I to go into our synod’s procedure for resolution, would be the one to get spanked in the end for being so mean rather than the practitioners of heterodoxy? I do think this would be the way of Luther. No good deed goes unpunished. If you've been chosen for greatness (which seems so) you've been chosen for suffering. Thank you for the ...
    mbw at Oct 31 2014 01:33 pm

Vanessa was Disappointed by Her Phone Call to St. Louis, by Pr. Rossow
@Pastor David L. Prentice Jr. #3 Wow! "FBd him?" Has an interesting ring to it. All kidding aside, now that you've contacted Pr. Woolsey directly, I see no reason why you should not contact your circuit visitor, and your DP. Any reason why you can't contact your regional VP, as well? 5/2 is no longer in the woodwork, but there are plenty of other such entities in the synod, many only at the ...
    Joe Strieter at Oct 31 2014 01:08 pm

Vanessa was Disappointed by Her Phone Call to St. Louis, by Pr. Rossow
@Vanessa #2 I just FBd him, see if that message ...
    Pastor David L. Prentice Jr. at Oct 31 2014 12:58 pm

Vanessa was Disappointed by Her Phone Call to St. Louis, by Pr. Rossow
@Pastor David L. Prentice Jr. #1 When I spoke with Pr. Woolsey, he indicated that the best way to reach him is by facebook messenger and then a phone conversation can be scheduled from there. I argued that was disappointing since not all pastors or laity are on facebook, but it is what it is. It may be worth getting an account if you don't have one ...
    Vanessa at Oct 31 2014 12:42 pm

Vanessa was Disappointed by Her Phone Call to St. Louis, by Pr. Rossow
Now I have emailed Pastor Woolsey, no return yet. A call may in the offing. Now should I email him again, but CC my Circuit Visitor and District President? Keep it in the ...
    Pastor David L. Prentice Jr. at Oct 31 2014 12:20 pm

Rejected by FiveTwo: How I Failed My Sacramental Entrepreneur Aptitude Test - Guest Article by Vanessa
@Vanessa #2 Thanks Vanessa. I called and left a message at the desk of someone in the Office of the President. I asked that President Harrison comment on the Five/Two problem and expressed my frustration with this heterodox group. Living in a very church growth-type district, I am simply appalled by the inability of the LCMS to address these false teachings/teachers. Kyrie ...
    Diane at Oct 31 2014 12:15 pm

Rejected by FiveTwo: How I Failed My Sacramental Entrepreneur Aptitude Test - Guest Article by Vanessa
What a great post! I burst out laughing when you reprised the title in the middle of the post and again at the concluding line You are not a failure. You are doing and encouraging others to do what Walther says in Church and Ministry - "At the risk of losing your salvation, flee all false teachers and heterodox churches." Thank you for a great ...
    Pastor Tim Rossow at Oct 31 2014 12:06 pm

Rejected by FiveTwo: How I Failed My Sacramental Entrepreneur Aptitude Test - Guest Article by Vanessa
Thanks Vanessa! The Junkans take on Holy Communion is pure "JUNK!" I do believe he is making a mockery of the Supper. Shocking and disturbing to say the least. I would add a couple of more ways to help fight, if I may - support those organizations who are on the front lines. Join ACELC, etc. Support them, Issues, Etc., BJS, and others with your prayers, time, talents, and treasures. Some are not good at discussing issues verbally. I, for one, ...
    LadyM at Oct 31 2014 11:53 am

The “Five Plus Two Makes Three” Network of Bad Theology
@Vanessa #50 All the more reason to tank the DRP. It may have merits, but is so poorly designed, and ripe for abuse. Calling Dr. Noland. We need your expert analysis, so we can submit overtures to the synodical ...
    Jason at Oct 31 2014 11:52 am

Rejected by FiveTwo: How I Failed My Sacramental Entrepreneur Aptitude Test - Guest Article by Vanessa
@Vanessa #2 OK, I get it. No need to apologize for your verbiage, adverbiage, or nouniage, either. We engineers and writers gotta stick together. Have you had a "go" at one of Crosspoint's (no "e") sermons yet? I just visited the above-linked Facebook page. I'm not a "facebooker," so it took me awhile to figure things out. I see lots of comments, many of which are at least mildly critical ...
    Joe Strieter at Oct 31 2014 11:43 am

Rejected by FiveTwo: How I Failed My Sacramental Entrepreneur Aptitude Test - Guest Article by Vanessa
Thanks Joe. The use of "mocking" is meant as in he's making a "mockery" of the Lord's Supper, and as you said, devalues it in doing so. I've never claimed to be great with verbiage - after all, I'm an engineer by trade and writer on the ...
    Vanessa at Oct 31 2014 11:22 am

Rejected by FiveTwo: How I Failed My Sacramental Entrepreneur Aptitude Test - Guest Article by Vanessa
It appears that our LCMS laity is out ahead of the clergy. Please don't be offended, BJS-friendly pastors--this is not directed at you. But Vanessa has done (and is doing) a first-class job of exposing this business. I had not viewed the Junkans video of the Lord's Supper. I'm not sure I would characterize it as "mocking," however. He simply devalues Holy Communion, and by so doing, he is, in effect, casting pearls before swine. I guess ...
    Joe Strieter at Oct 31 2014 11:12 am

The “Five Plus Two Makes Three” Network of Bad Theology
@Martin R. Noland #27 Dr. Noland, I really appreciate this post, especially your example of ULC Minneapolis. I, and many others, continue to be deeply affected by this grave sin against that faithful flock. I still shed tears over their plight, and the fact that they are still homeless. I am deeply grieved that we, as a synod, were impotent (and mostly silent) to help them and prevent this ...
    Noreen Linke at Oct 31 2014 11:08 am

The “Five Plus Two Makes Three” Network of Bad Theology
@Joe Strieter #19 Unfortunately, when I called the synod office and asked what Pres Harrison was planning to do about the situation with FiveTwo, I was told he couldn't really do anything. I was told the dispute resolution process needed to be used. When I asked how anything could happen when DPs are in line with the heterodoxy, the answer was basically that the process isn't perfect but it's all ...
    Vanessa at Oct 31 2014 10:43 am

The “Five Plus Two Makes Three” Network of Bad Theology
@helen #37 Helen, I recognize your lack of enthusiasm for LWML with indifference. I’ve never been involved, myself, and discussion about it in this particular thread is off-topic. I’ll limit myself, then, to this rebuke, mostly because it seems you refuse to or cannot admit your mistake, but also because my conscience is reminding me that any more time or energy spent on this website is a ...
    Joyce at Oct 31 2014 10:10 am

Redeeming Holy Days from Pagan Lies: All Saints' Day/Eve and Samhain
Thanks again, Pr. Abrahamson, for the excellent research and generous publication of your ...
    Brad at Oct 31 2014 10:02 am

The “Five Plus Two Makes Three” Network of Bad Theology
Confessional pastors and churches do not need to sheep steal. It is not about manipulation, growth, or felt needs. We simply speak the truth both hard and sweet of God's law and gospel. As the hymn says "we preach the word those that like it and those that like it not." The old adage is true. When you never lie you never have to remember what you said. The sheep stealing growthers live the constant chamelion like existence of trying to please ...
    Pastor Tim Rossow at Oct 31 2014 09:31 am

The “Five Plus Two Makes Three” Network of Bad Theology
@Jason #46 Jason, one of the great treasures of our polity is that we are equally yoked with the clergy. We are not sacerdotalists who leave the pastor to have the final say. You have an obligation to challenge your pastor if he is introducing false teaching or breaching the confessions. A lack of a doctorate in exegetical this or that should be no obstacle to a civil discussion about whether or ...
    Tim Wood at Oct 31 2014 09:28 am