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To Restore a Biblical Pastoral Office in the LCMS

January 25th, 2012 Post by

Whereas, the “Specific Ministry Pastor” (hereafter SMP) program was adopted in 2007 with the claim that it would produce “church planters and missionaries” (2007 Convention Proceedings, p. 133); and

Whereas, the SMP program to-date has produced few “church planters” or “missionaries,” but rather 70% of the students in the program are identified as “staff pastors” of large congregations (2010-11 enrollment statistics); and

Whereas, the SMP program altered the pastoral training admissions process, so that the district offices are heavily involved in the admissions process with the seminaries, and this inhibits the seminary admissions offices from
fulfilling their vocation of ensuring that candidates for seminary
admission meet the biblical requirements for admission to the pastoral ministry in I Timothy 3:1-7 and Titus 1:6-9; and

Whereas, there continues to be concern about the fact that SMP students receive about one- third the amount of training as M.Div. students, and also do not have to be graduates of a college or high school; therefore, be it

Resolved, that the admissions process for the SMP program be immediately turned over to the sole authority of the seminaries, so that all students received for the pastoral ministry, in any program, have the same process and same rigorous examination of fitness for ministry; and be it further

Resolved, that any duties held by district offices in the pastoral training admissions process be reduced to whatever they presently have in the M.Div. program; and be it finally

Resolved, that the President of the Synod appoint a Task Force from faculty members of both seminaries and members of the Council of Presidents, to review the SMP program, assess its graduates, and to report its findings and recommendations to the 2016 synodical convention.

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  1. Tom Zimmerman
    January 25th, 2012 at 09:31 | #1

    Norm,

    There is at least one inaccuracy in this whereas: “Whereas, the SMP program altered the pastoral training admissions process, so that the primary-and-critical decisions about who may be accepted into the program are made by district offices, not by either of the two seminaries;” CTSFW retains the ability to accept or decline all applicants to any of the programs that operate here. We have declined at least 3 applicants to the the SMP program in the past 12 months. We have also declined applicants to other programs. I won’t go into the reasons, but they have been declined.

    TZ

  2. revaggie
    January 25th, 2012 at 11:27 | #2

    While I agree SMP desperately needs significant improvement to be a worth while training program, I would not vote for this resolution simply because of the where as that specifically targets one person.

  3. Concerned Seminarian
    January 30th, 2012 at 10:25 | #3

    You can change the third “Whereas” without compromising the resolution:

    Whereas, the SMP program altered the pastoral training admissions process, so that the district offices are heavily involved in the admissions process with the seminaries, and this has resulted in at least one case for which concerns have been raised aboutinhibits the seminary admissions offices from fulfilling their vocation of ensuring that candidates for seminary admission meet the biblical requirements for admission to the pastoral ministry in I Timothy 3:1-7 and Titus 1:6-9; and

  4. January 30th, 2012 at 16:36 | #4

    @Concerned Seminarian #3

    Concerned: Per Pastor Noland’s instructions I have made that change to the third Whereas.

    Norm

  5. Daniel
    April 5th, 2013 at 21:04 | #5

    Where in Scripture does it prescribe 3 years plus vicarage? Seems very arbitrary and a building a fence around the prescriptions made of the pastoral office in 1 Timothy 3:1-7 and Titus 1:6-9. Would the apostles be able to be called given the above resolution?

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