Neutrality on the Commandments does not befit Christian organizations

January 15th, 2014 Post by

ThriventFinancialWhat if BJS became “neutral” on the First Commandment?  That is to say we never came out saying which god is correct and that we neither would condemn or support any group for any god whatsoever?  You would immediately stop reading and figure we had left Christianity (and religion) behind.

Thrivent has declared itself to be neutral on the Fifth Commandment (at best).  They have suspended choice dollars to pro-life groups (which is not really neutral if they continue to support pro-choice groups).  They have also said that being against murder or for it doesn’t matter for them.  So murder or don’t murder, it doesn’t matter to them.  Instead of an “amen” after “You shall not murder”, it has chosen the response of “no comment”.

If an organization claiming to uphold  Christian values says that the commandments do not matter to them, what does that mean?

From Thrivent:

We are a Fortune 500 financial services organization with a unique blend of financial expertise, shared values and steadfast service that truly sets us apart. We’re a faith-based organization, called to care for others.

What faith is the base for this organization if it disregards the Law of God?  What “values” are being shared if not those taught by the Scriptures?


It is time for Thrivent to change to fit the faith-base that it claims to represent and serve, or it is time for those who do not share these neutral values to consider other options.  Please pray for those at Thrivent that are in this situation.


The Office of the President of the LCMS has issued a new statement today if you would like to read it here.

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  1. Martin R. Noland
    January 16th, 2014 at 08:27 | #1

    Dear Pastor Scheer,

    Thanks for keeping us up to date on this developing issue. I don’t know if you and your staff “broke the news” on this, but Brothers of John the Steadfast is where I saw it first, and where I have seen it consistently and fairly reported, and updates as the matter develops.

    The Thrivent Board and its CEO should not at all be surprised at the response of the LCMS to Thrivent’s decisions to support pro-abortion organizations, especially Planned Parenthood which is an “over-the-top” political machine. The Thrivent CEO used to be the Chief Administrative Officer of the LCMS, so he knows exactly what we believe and confess–but of course, he has to do what his board says, or resign. Maybe he can be a voice of reason through all this.

    Who has changed? AAL/Lutheran Brotherhood/Thrivent—or the LCMS? It’s not the LCMS.

    Thanks to all you guys for all you do to keep Lutherans informed about issues that affect us, and for giving so many resources for us to help deal with those issues.

    Yours in Christ, Martin R. Noland
    Pastor of Trinity Lutheran Church, Evansville, Indiana

  2. Gregory3
    January 16th, 2014 at 09:25 | #2

    More information on this has come out. Here’s an article with some graphics from internal documents:

  3. Didaskalos
    January 17th, 2014 at 04:24 | #3

    There’s no neutrality on the Fifth Commandment with Big Abortion, one of the recipients of Thrivent’s donations. Abortion is, has been, and will always be Planned Parenthod’s number-one marketing priority and cash cow.

    Abby Johnson, former Planned Parenthood Director and Planned Parenthood of Southeast Texas 2008 Employee of the Year, writes:

    “. . . Each year, each Planned Parenthood clinic has an individual budget meeting. With a feeling of dread I drove to Houston to meet with Cheryl and Barbara to receive the budget for my clinic. The assigned budget always includes a line for client goals under abortion services and a line for client goals under family planning.

    “When I looked at the numbers, I did a double take. I noticed that the client goals related to family planning hadn’t changed much, but the client goals under abortion services had increased significantly. My mind started racing. ‘Something’s got to be wrong here,’ I thought. ‘Shouldn’t it be the other way around? Our goal at Planned Parenthood is to decrease the number of abortions by decreasing the number of unwanted pregnancies. That means family planning services — birth control. That is our stated goal. So why am I being asked, according to this budget, to increase my abortion revenue and thus my abortion client count.’

    “And so I asked the question out loud.

    “I came away from that meeting with the clear and distinct understanding that I was to get my priorities straight, that abortion was where my priorities needed to be because that was where the revenue was. This meant that my job as the clinic director was to find a way to increase the number of abortions at my clinic.

    “. . .I was starting to put the pieces together. I couldn’t escape the thought that this organization that had given me my career would soon be in the late-term abortion business. . . . I was finding it increasingly hard to justify what I now saw as Planned Parenthood’s money-first attitude toward abortion, especially late-term abortions. . . . in light of the budget discussions, I couldn’t help but do the math. The later the abortion, the higher the cost. A late-term abortion, I knew, could cost between $3,000 and $4,000. There was big money to be made.” — “Unplanned: The Dramatic True Story of a Former Planned Parenthood Leader’s Eye-Opening Journey across the Life Line”

    ** — Abortion clinic says seeing image of preborn child may “make the decision harder”

  4. Rev. Loren Zell
    January 18th, 2014 at 10:51 | #4

    We should remember that commandments 2-10 are explanations on how to keep the first. So if someone rejects God’s rule on the fifth, then my understanding is that they have rejected the first also. We all live under God’s rule. God has instituted his law to govern our behavior. So if a person rejects God’s rule in their heart, they have rejected God. Its helpful to remember that God has given us our life, but that life is not to be used in any way we see fit. God’s intention is that that life is lived within His kingdom, within the will of God.

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