Pastor Jonathon Fisk — 7 “Christian” Rules that Every Christian Ought to Break as Often as Possible

September 18th, 2012 Post by

The new CPH book BROKEN: 7 “Christian” Rules that Every Christian Ought to Break as Often as Possible, by our own Pastor Jonathon Fisk, is coming out soon. We previously announced it here. It is being promoted by WorldviewEverlasting on facebook.

We are pleased that his energy will make its way to the podium for upcoming BJS Conference in February as he joins Rev. James May and Pastor Bryan Wolfmueller for presentations on what it means to be Lutheran.

Here is the latest posting on facebook:

 

This type of thing used to scare me. What if my kids fell for the lies? Can they reason through the illogic of these arguments? Will they be able to spot the problems and not have their faith needlessly shaken?


Since becoming Lutheran and really digging deep into God’s Word, the Confessions and church history, I’ve learned that all the tools we need to face these arguments are already at hand, passed down to us from our fathers in the faith. And what makes me excited about this book as I start reading it is that Pastor Fisk is making those tools accessible and understandable in a whole new way.

If you struggle with how to address the argument in this image, this book will give you a good start for recognizing the problems while not having your faith BROKEN in the process. -PS

Also, the first excerpt and quote out of context here:

“He was a good kid. He played in a Christian band. He hung out with Christian friends. He lived the Christian life. He worked hard to get people saved. He struggled after God’s will for his life. He set aside time for prayer. He set aside time to play his guitar. He mixed the two together and sung out songs of praise to his heart’s content. Soon he’d go to college, and then he’d marry his girlfrie
nd. Maybe he’d be a pastor. Maybe he’d just be a worship leader. All he knew was that what he wanted for the rest of his life was to feel this way, to live this life, to know what he knew, and to find a way to help more people do the same.

Then he met a missionary.” – BROKEN, by Jonathan Fisk

I bet you know this story. Where do you think it’s going to end? -PS

 

Click here to pre-order .. it currently says it will be available mid-october.

 

 

From comment # 19:

Heard Pastor Fisk on BookTalk yesterday – got me even more excited for the book.

 

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A link to the podcast on the KFUO site is found here.


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  1. September 18th, 2012 at 15:16 | #1

    We have had a very strong pre-publication order response for Pastor Fisk’s book!

  2. #4 Kitty
    September 18th, 2012 at 15:21 | #2

    I’m guessing he applied to go on a mission trip. There’s a lady living in my community who spent a month in Russia as a missionary. I’ve heard her speak about it several times and there’s no doubt that it was the most fulfilling time of her life.

  3. jim claybourn
    September 18th, 2012 at 15:51 | #3

    Pastor McCain,

    If I order from CPH it’s $16.99 plus shipping, from Amazon it’s $10.19 plus 3.99 shipping.

    I’d like to buy through CPH, but why the difference?

  4. September 18th, 2012 at 18:50 | #4

    That’s Amazon for you, their pricing structure is out of our control.

    The book from CPH will be on sale at $12.99, anyone placing a preorder will get it at that price point.

    But, if you really want to pour money money into Jeff Bezos’ pocket, you go right ahead. I won’t mind.

    Sniff. Sniff.

  5. jim claybourn
    September 19th, 2012 at 09:47 | #5

    I just ordered online through CPH and everything displayed and calculated at 16.99 + shipping,

    If 12.99 is correct, I’d think that price should be displayed!

    thanks

  6. September 19th, 2012 at 10:57 | #6

    That is the pre-publication, price. You will only be charged $12.99 when it ships. Not to worry, remain calm, carry on.

  7. September 19th, 2012 at 11:15 | #7

    @Rev. Paul T. McCain #6

    Seems odd .. people will make their buying decisions based on the price they are given when they click “purchase”.

  8. Rev. Weinkauf
    September 19th, 2012 at 11:20 | #8

    @Rev. Paul T. McCain #6
    I can’t say enough how impressed I am with what has been rolling out of CPH.

    But please help me understand how Amazon can sell a new book from CPH at 60% what CPH sells it? (post-production price 10.19 vs. 16.99). This is really significant as our church in January (when we have new budget monies) are looking to buy 40 of these for our youth group/adults, that’s $272. So would I want to get 66 from Amazon for the same price as 40 from CPH?

    And, while at the Seminary, a representative of CPH encouraged, yes, encouraged us to purchase from Amazon instead of buying directly from CPH, to save CPH the cost of ordertaking, distribution, etc.

  9. September 19th, 2012 at 12:47 | #9

    Rev. Weinkauf :
    @Rev. Paul T. McCain #6
    I can’t say enough how impressed I am with what has been rolling out of CPH.
    But please help me understand how Amazon can sell a new book from CPH at 60% what CPH sells it? (post-production price 10.19 vs. 16.99). This is really significant as our church in January (when we have new budget monies) are looking to buy 40 of these for our youth group/adults, that’s $272. So would I want to get 66 from Amazon for the same price as 40 from CPH?
    And, while at the Seminary, a representative of CPH encouraged, yes, encouraged us to purchase from Amazon instead of buying directly from CPH, to save CPH the cost of ordertaking, distribution, etc.

    First, thanks for the compliment, truly appreciated.

    OK, as for Amazon…where to begin?

    Every publisher and retailer in the whole known university has a love/hate relationship with Amazon. Wait, every publisher does. Retailers just hate them.

    Here are some broad comments about Amazon.

    Amazon operates strictly on the principle that more is more and less is more. That is to say, their goal and aim is to be the ONE STOP SHOP for everything they can get their hands on. Books, of course, have been a huge part of their business for years, and still is.

    As for books, they will always, always always do all they can to offer the lowest price possible. How do they do it? They take the discount they receive FROM THE PUBLISHER and often price the book even LOWER than the discount would logically allow them to price it. That’s part of their strategy.

    At the end of the day, we have ZERO control over how Amazon chooses to price things after they receive them from us.

    Now, as for this specific book, at this moment, the price point may be 10.19 on the “Broken” book, may be less, may be more, tomorrow. Or the next thirty minutes. You just never know.

    I do know that their current price is based on a retail price they think we are selling the book at, but we in fact are not. Their price will go up when the book is actually published.

    So, if I were you, I’d place your order now to lock in that low price, at least I think you can.

    You’ll notice on other books, such as commentaries, Amazon may be higher than you can get them from us.

    It all depends.

    That’s about the best answer I can give.

    At the end of the day, however, if the difference between Amazon and our price is not THAT much would be most helpful for your publishing house to retain as much margin as possible on a product, so we do appreciate direct orders from our core customer base.

    Amazon is a fantastic way to get our resources literally out in front of the whole world though, what a great “mission opportunity” as a result.

    Hope that helps.

  10. Rev. McCall
    September 19th, 2012 at 18:11 | #10

    I enjoy Pr. Fisk and his website and have already pre-ordered this book based solely on my opinion of him and his excellent theology. I have no doubt it will be fantastic. However, I am disappointed with the excerpts from the book that are put out. I am not really getting the “gist” of the book from them. Maybe it’s designed this way to hype things up by keeping it mysterious and vague and disjointed, I don’t know. I guess personally, as a guy with a B.A. in English Lit., if I were considering buying this book based solely on what I knew from the excerpts given, I wouldn’t. Is there more clarity comming?

  11. Rev. Paul T. McCain
    September 19th, 2012 at 20:56 | #11

    You’ll just have to see….

    : )

  12. September 20th, 2012 at 09:02 | #12

    Here’s an opportunity to hear from Pastor Fisk about his book:

    Would you like to hear Pastor Fisk talk about his forthcoming book…. “Broken” … you can hear him talking about it on KFUO AM on Friday (tomorrow).

    Rev. Jonathan Fisk is joining Rev. Rodney Zwonitzer, Director of Broadcast Services at KFUO Radio, to talk about “BROKEN: 7 Christian Rules that every Christian ought to break as often as possible”.

    Examine seven of the most common spiritual traditions that have infiltrated our churches and are being taught as if they were doctrine, but which are nothing more than the traditions of men. Find out what they are and how they use speculation, mysticism, and moralism to break Christianity.

    Hear what they have to say during this LIVE broadcast of BOOKTALK Sept. 21, at 2:30 pm CST. Be sure to listen this Friday!

    Tune in here:
    http://www.kfuoam.org

  13. September 20th, 2012 at 11:29 | #13

    Just noticed Amazon raised the price on “Broken” by a buck, once they find out what the actual retail price is, I suspect you’ll see the price go up even further.

    Anything offered pre-pub on Amazon is subject to change….

  14. Lizabth
    September 20th, 2012 at 12:26 | #14

    I ordered this book via Amazon for my daughter. When I preordered it, the price @ that time was guaranteed, UNLESS it went down in price by ship date. Then I would get the lower price. So once you order it, it won’t go UP in price, but it may go down.

  15. September 20th, 2012 at 12:41 | #15

    Yup, it is kind of like playing the lottery, or the stock market.

  16. Lumpenkönig
    September 20th, 2012 at 13:42 | #16

    Rev. Paul T. McCain :
    Examine seven of the most common spiritual traditions that have infiltrated our churches and are being taught as if they were doctrine, but which are nothing more than the traditions of men. Find out what they are and how they use speculation, mysticism, and moralism to break Christianity.

    Sounds like the kind of theology promoted by Willow Creek, Saddleback, and TCN………

    How many Willow Creek Lutherans and LCMS district presidents are beginning to rethink their support of the theology that is being promoted by the church growth movement?

  17. Nathan Redman
    September 20th, 2012 at 14:35 | #17

    11.55 on amazon now

  18. September 21st, 2012 at 06:14 | #18

    I just put up a blog post with a bit more information, even pictures!!

    Check it out:

    http://cyberbrethren.com/2012/09/20/are-you-a-fiskfan-whats-that-read-this/

  19. Nathan Redman
    September 22nd, 2012 at 06:18 | #19

    Heard Pastor Fisk on BookTalk yesterday – got me even more excited for the book.

    http://archives.kfuo.org/mp3/BT12/BT_Sep_21_2012.mp3

  20. September 22nd, 2012 at 06:50 | #20

    It’s available now in their archives, so you can click on this link and listen to it:

    http://www.kfuoam.org/2012/09/21/booktalk-53/

    ((( moderator: added to the end of the article above )))

  21. Ray
    December 16th, 2012 at 20:51 | #21

    Rev Fisk re-scripts history as a drama played out by 7 personified heresies. His most empassioned assault is on Mysticism which he incorreclty reduces to emotionalism conflating it with the Romantic movement (incorrectly including Mozart). Actually his knowledge of history, culture and theology rapidly diminishes in direct proportion to their distance from Star Wars.

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