Montgomery / Kloha Debate Information — Livestreaming link


Dr. John Warwick Montgomery, Distinguished Research Professor of Philosophy at Concordia University Wisconsin and Dr. Jeffrey John Kloha, Provost and Professor of Exegetical Theology at Concordia Seminary, Saint Louis, will conduct a debate about the philosophies of Biblical textual criticism on Saturday, October 15th, 2016 at Concordia University-Chicago in River Forest, Illinois.

We’ve heard from several locations around the country where people are gathering to watch the debate .. it will be livestreamed; here is a link that will work then:


From Pr. Martin Noland:

If you want to prepare yourself for the debate, and are not up to reading a standard text on the subject (e.g., Bruce Metzger, The Text of the New Testament [Oxford University Press]), then I suggest that you read the relatively brief treatments at Wikipedia here:

Textual criticism of the New Testament (specific application of the general discipline to the New Testament)

List of major textual variants in the New Testament (gives you an idea of the type of variants found in the evidence)

Textual Variants in the New Testament (a longer list of the same type of thing)

Categories of New Testament Manuscripts (explanation of the “text types” in the New Testament)

If you read through these five Wikipedia articles, you should have sufficient knowledge of terms and ideas to understand the upcoming debate–at least in terms of the issues in textual criticism. As to the matter of the Lutheran doctrine of Scripture, that is an entirely different matter, and Wikipedia won’t help there.


Other posts on the debate can be found here.


Steadfast Lutherans is proud to be a co-sponsor for the debate.  After the debate has happened we will have the video archived.  An official transcription of the debate will also be made available.

About Norm Fisher

Norm was raised in the UCC in Connecticut, and like many fell away from the church after high school. With this background he saw it primarily as a service organization. On the miracle of his first child he came back to the church. On moving to Texas a few years later he found a home in Lutheranism when he was invited to a confessional church a half-hour away by our new neighbors.

He is one of those people who found a like mind in computers while in Middle School and has been programming ever since. He's responsible for many websites, including the Book of Concord,, and several other sites.

He has served the church in various positions, including financial secretary, sunday school teacher, elder, PTF board member, and choir member.

Norm has been involved behind the scenes in many of the "go-to" websites for Lutherans going back many years.


Montgomery / Kloha Debate Information — Livestreaming link — 4 Comments

  1. Dear BJS Bloggers,

    The presentations and debate begins at 9:30 AM sharp Central Daylight Time this Saturday, October 15th. It will begin with devotions and several very brief introductions. This will be followed by the two presentations of one-half hour each, then a break, then the rebuttals from each presenter, followed by a Question and Answer session from the audience. Closing time will be 1:30 PM or 2:00 PM at the latest.

    For those who miss the live-streaming, Brothers of John the Steadfast will also be offering a video archive available through the BJS website.

    As I understand it, the written presentations (which I think will be distributed to the live audience) will remain the intellectual property of the authors, so they will retain the rights to publish their papers when and where they wish, which is the usual academic practice.

    I hope this helps a bit.

    Yours in Christ, Martin R. Noland

  2. Thanks for your work in helping organize this debate. I was very pleased when I learned that it would be livestreamed. A group of college students (and maybe a couple of seminarians) will be gathering in St. Charles, MO, in our Lutheran campus ministry center here to watch it on Saturday.

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