News from The United List

Many around the Synod are gathering for circuit forums and making nominations for various offices (Deadline is October 20). It is important that these individuals receive as many nominations from congregations as possible.

We want to make sure that you are aware that The United List has updated its site and has released its suggestions for President, Vice President, Secretary, Vice Presidents 2-5 (now regionally elected), and regional lay members for the Board or Directors.

We should also note that they have developed a web form so that you can let them know who you have nominated for other offices (including an at large lay member of the BOD) so that they can consider such information as they prepare the entire list as the Convention draws closer.

You can also subscribe to their e-mail list so you are sure to receive the most up-to-date information.

BJS will have more information on nominations and other issues as we get closer to the 2013 convention, July 20th, in St Louis.

 

Please, if you have nominated someone for a position, please go over to the United List website and tell them about it. Information on nominations can be found on the LCMS website here


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News from The United List — 26 Comments

  1. Happy to see that the suggested lay candidate for nomination to LCMS Board of Directors is our own BJS commenter Carol Broome.

  2. Dear BJS Bloggers,

    Many thanks to the BJS editors for bringing this to our attention. I just received the notice from Secretary Hartwig about the congregational nominations process, and upcoming ballots, so this is news just in time.

    I like to make informed decisions when it comes to nominations and elections. That is difficult to do in the new process adopted in 2010. How do we know these people?

    Most of them on the list have been up for synodical positions previously and many are incumbents, so those are easy to find out their credentials. I pulled out last conventions “Biographical Synopses & Statements of Nominees” for the LCMS convention July 10-17, 2010. Here is where you can find bios in that book on the people listed:

    Matthew Harrison, p. 12; Herb Mueller Jr., p. 15; Scott Murray, p. 16; Daniel Preus, p. 20; John Wohlrabe Jr., p. 27; Raymond Hartwig, p. 29; Kathy Schulz, p. 60 (the “Managing Editor” in her bio probably refers to her work with the magazine “Good News”).

    Then I found one other in the “Biographical Synopses and Statements of Nominees” for the LCMS convention July 14-19, 2007. Robert T. Kuhn is listed on page 29; but you have to add six more years for his service on the LCMS Board of Directors, for which he is presently the chairman.

    The other two don’t have bios in convention publications (as far as I can tell), since I think they are new to synodical positions. This is because we now have “regions” and are required to elect people in those regions that have, up until the present, only been known in the districts of those regions.

    For Nabil S. Nour, I found his website here: http://afootwasher.blogspot.com ; then look at the linked page “About Pastor Nour.”

    For Carol Hack Broome, I found her webpage here:
    https://service.thrivent.com/apps/locate/[email protected]&prePopulate=true

    I hope this helps the BJS folks and others. Remember: keep your eyes open for the ballots from Dr. Hartwig!

    Yours in Christ, Martin R. Noland

  3. I hate to kill the joy, but I thought a feeling of detente from 2010 would do away with things like the United List. Granted that there is a need to build trust among pastors and laymen. But I have a bit of a bad taste in my mouth about “politickin'”.

  4. don’t waste your energy, time and money, the LCMS is locked down for years to come…

  5. Maybe the United List will go away when we’re all congratulating each other in the Missouri Synod over the recognized success of the Kononia Project.

    But until then, I’m not breaking out the whistles and party streamers.

  6. Is there some reason why the so-called “United List” does not identify itself, by name? I find the anonymous aspect of this puzzling.

    It seems to me your typical, average convention delegate would get something from this “United List” and say, “Who are those guys?”

    We have to understand that the various little groups mentioned are nearly unknown for we now have generations that “know not Joseph.”

    Just something to think about.

  7. If people really put their trust in the Holy Spirit, they would not be doing this kind of ground work on the Spirit’s behalf.

  8. @John Rixe #1
    Thank you, John!

    To be on this list that includes so many fine churchpeople is both a great honor and very humbling.

    What marvelous opportunities and yet what challenging difficulties our Synod faces right now! One thing that is clearer than ever after the unnecessary, wrong sale and demolition of ULCMN is how important it is to say yes when the Church asks for service on her boards and committees, and to serve faithfully and thoughtfully. I pray that many good, faithful people all over the country are heeding this and agreeing to serve.

  9. It is especially important that boards of our Concordias be in good hands. It would be hard to know who stands for them continuing to be really Lutheran without some information.

  10. @Rev. Paul T. McCain #7
    It seems to me your typical, average convention delegate would get something from this “United List” and say, “Who are those guys?”

    The average convention delegate, or his Pastor, should know at least some of the names on that list. He may reasonably assume (and pray) that the rest are of the same calibre.

    Given the top names, it’s fairly obvious who they are not!

  11. I’m amazed the “missionals” (libs) of Jesus First haven’t already started their usual carefully orchestrated political campaign whereby they try to convince the delegates to vote for folks like Presidents Kieshcnick and Benke. I mean, I didn’t really expect to be on their Christmas card list, but I’ve seen absolutely nothing from that camp. Has anybody a clue who they will be supporting for election? Their website says they are still Ablaze!, bit the fine print says that the site was last updated on 09/13/2010. I can’t imagine they considered their mission accomplished with the unseating of former President Kieschnick and so they disbanded. Perhaps they are waiting for the mailing list of all delegates to begin their attack…

  12. helen :
    @Rev. Paul T. McCain #7
    It seems to me your typical, average convention delegate would get something from this “United List” and say, “Who are those guys?”
    The average convention delegate, or his Pastor, should know at least some of the names on that list. He may reasonably assume (and pray) that the rest are of the same calibre.
    Given the top names, it’s fairly obvious who they are not!

    I think Pastor McCain meant who are these guys who put out the list, not who are these guys ON the list.

  13. @Larry Kleinschmidt #13
    Given the top names, it’s fairly obvious who they are not!

    I think you are right, Larry. I meant to imply that “by their fruits” (or in this case, their recommended nominees) “you will know them.”

    PTM always wants to know “who”. (The main thing that tells me is that they didn’t invite him!) 😉 That’s alright, Rev., they didn’t ask me either! 🙁

  14. Helen, ignoring for a moment your ongoing need to hurl little insults, my point is simply that I think the UL folks should “uncloak” and let folks know who they are.

    If I were your typical/average delegate and received a list telling me for whom I should vote, I’d like to know precisely who it is making suggestions.

    Not sure why asking people acting anonymously on such serious and important matters to identify themselves is anything other than a wise request.

    There are a lot of people who have long forgotten what all these little groups and organizations were and so, for the most part, that information is rather meaningless.

  15. @Rev. Paul T. McCain #15
    Reverend, I had no intention of insulting you! I only stated an obvious fact, i.e., if you were one of them, you’d know. Be a little less thin skinned!

    I have read that the group feels the candidates should be approved or disapproved on their own merits, not on the merits/perceived faults of the group who collected their bios and put their names before the delegates.

    A few years ago, we found out that people would reject the best of men… Kurt E Marquart… because they didn’t like one of the men who wrote on Marquart’s behalf. That, IMHO, cost Synod dearly; we are still living with the damage.

    Now if I wanted to be insulting, I’d say that … no, I won’t say it.

  16. @helen #16
    Yes, I’ve noticed that Helen has a real penchant for insulting and talking down to pastors here. It’s a problem. But if you say anything to her about it, she’ll just tell you that the problem is just you being thin-skinned.

  17. And the Lord’s servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, (2 Timothy 2:24, 25)

  18. John Rixe :
    And the Lord’s servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, (2 Timothy 2:24, 25)

    I think just about every pastor on this site needs this rebuke. I hope they are able to control themselves better within their own congregations.

  19. @Matthew #20

    Matthew, I imagine you’ve become accustomed to the very popular whimpering, even gelded, version of today’s pastor, who pretends to agree with everything in order to appear agreeable. Well, the One who took the children into his arms is the same One who called a spade a spade when the little children were being led away from the certain comfort of the pure, sweet Word:
    “And he said to his disciples, ‘Temptations to sin are sure to come, but woe to the one through whom they come! It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were cast into the sea than that he should cause one of these little ones to sin. Pay attention to yourselves! If your brother sins, rebuke him…’” (Luke 17:1-3a)
    Don’t be fooled by the outward appearance of soft-spoken, kindly pastors who feed you false hope in a false doctrine of men:
    “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs, which outwardly appear beautiful, but within are full of dead people’s bones and all uncleanness.” (Matthew 23:27)
    Matthew, I don’t understand how you can conclude that I don’t welcome all sinners. Everyone is welcome to our mission. It is my prayer that they will there hear only the certain hope in the one Savior as revealed to us in the one Word.

  20. @Pastor John Fraiser #17

    Now, now, Pastor Fraiser, the Rev. McCain and I have a running discussion because I want him to be the best he can be in all his posts. 🙂

    [It is sometimes a handicap to be a former school teacher!] 🙁 Maybe there is no such thing.

    I have too much respect for the OHM to expect less than the best.
    (I have too many good friends ‘in collars’, too.) 🙂

    Pr. Crandall, does your answer to Matthew belong on another thread?

  21. what will the DISTRICT AND SYNOD leaders do to those who take Bible stands against their spiritual missional hobbies and take the road of compromise and expediency in order to protect THEIR STATUS QUO AND COMFORT? Due to such things, we are losing our beloved church and our written concerns are not even being acknowledged on any level of leadership.Should we vote for them?

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