ULC Purchase Agreement signed…

District Sells to Doran

The link is from a friend…


What are the consequences of this?  Is there still a way to save ULC?

This whole thing reminds me of a process with a goal that has had greased rails since it became public.  Just look at how quick the timeline happened…


Continue to keep all involved in your prayers.  Again, you may want to re-read the letter by Pr. Mark Preus which advises us to look at the Ninth Commandment on this.

Just because it’s legal doesn’t make it right (especially in the Church).



About Pastor Joshua Scheer

Pastor Joshua Scheer is the Senior Pastor of Our Savior Lutheran Church in Cheyenne, Wyoming. He is also the Editor-in-chief of Brothers of John the Steadfast. He oversees all of the work done by Steadfast Lutherans. He is a regular host of Concord Matters on KFUO. Pastor Scheer and his lovely wife Holly (who writes and manages the Katie Luther Sisters) have four children and enjoy living in Wyoming.


ULC Purchase Agreement signed… — 207 Comments

  1. I have recently been told that a number of years ago the MNS district offered to sell the ULC building to the congregation for a grand total of one dollar, and the congregation refused. If this is true, it would seem to me that the Congregation has forfeited any right to complain about this sale.

    I also have been told that the annual maintenance on that building, which is being funded by the district, is more than the rent paid by the congregation. Assuming this is true, it would seem that perhaps the sale of the property might be the “good Stewardship” thing to do.

    Still not sure about this, but the above does give food for thought.

  2. @David Hartung #201
    In 1999 the ULC congregation relied on the district for roughly half of its budget. 12 years later, the congregation is self-supporting, pays its own pastor and program expenses and over $41,000/year in rent to the district, and politely declined the $5,000 campus ministry program subsidy in the district’s 2011 budget (which the district continues to show as an expense in its most recent presentations, by the way). The 1999 proposal was to sell the congregation the building for $1 but also cut off all monetary subsidy. In retrospect that may have been preferable to the current situation, but at the time it wasn’t at all clear how the congregation could continue under the proposal. Also, the 1999 proposal was from the district mission exec, and as far as I know did not have the backing of the district board, so was probably a moot point.

    According to the district’s campus ministry budget at http://www.mnsdistrict.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=ueSdsHL_ol4%3d&tabid=206&mid=791, the total 2011 expense “Sub total” to the district for ULC is $76,700. The rent paid by the congregation is mentioned in a footnote, but nowhere is the actual expense figure shown:

    – $41,535 congregational rent
    – $14,400 parsonage rent (on the same property)
    – $5,000 program subsidy that ULC declined
    That brings it down to $15,765. Last I knew the district still had around $30,000 (from past rent paid by the congregation under a different agreement with the district) in a designated fund for ULC’s maintenance, although that amount may have gone down. Also, the $76,700 figure assumes a certain amount of unscheduled maintenance which may or may not actually be spent. So the actual cost to the district for the campus ministry at ULC is somewhere under $16,000, likely much less.

    Under $16,000 for a major campus ministry presence doesn’t seem like an onerous amount for the MNS district, especially compared to the cost of the other district campus ministry, which as far as I know does not have any offsets to its expenses; see the same page linked above.

    Tying your two concerns together, the ability of the ULC congregation to pay almost its own way in 2011 vs. the situation in 1999 indicates a very positive trend. The district could easily break even financially in 2012 and beyond on U of M campus ministry if it valued the ULC campus ministry enough to continue to rent the building to the congregation at cost.

    Steve Demlow, member, ULC

  3. Walking in to ULC, Minneapolis this morning, I noted a small florescent pink triangle painted at a central point on the surface of the parking lot. After bible, study Pr. Kind confirmed my suspicion – the ULC property was surveyed this past week – the pink triangle was the marker from which the property surveyor took his measurements.

    These measurements are for the benefit of Doran Construction, as they determine the specifics of their plans for the ULC site.

    This marker is an all too real and poignant reminder to all members and visitors to ULC that the MNS BOD has chosen to sell this gem of a campus mission property for their own warped and twisted reasons.

    If the reality of this marker does not move you to action to help save ULC, I do not know what else will before it is too late.

    You can support ULC on line or by mail – details are available at http://saveulc.org/

    Please keep us in your prayers. Have mercy, O Lord!

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