What do We Call It? Katie Luther Journal in the Works, by S. Zobel

The newest addition to our publication family needs a name!  The quarterly journal for SKL (Sisters of Katie Luther) focuses on a specific topic for each issue, exploring it through the Lutheran confessions, learning how it is expressed through the liturgy, and how it is lived through our vocation.  Special features will look at women who have been examples of faith throughout the centuries, a reader forum, and much more.  However, we need your help to give the journal a name!  Current suggestions include:
 
“The Katie Journal”
“The Handmaiden”
“The Lord’s Handmaiden”
“The Burr”
 
Clearly, help with new ideas would be appreciated. . .please share your ideas for naming this new one!

You can e-mail Suzanne directly by going to the “Contact Us” page or by clicking here.

(This and other posts like it are catalogued on the BJS Newsreel page of the site. It has been a bit dormant with so much of our energy going toward the convention last month. Look for lots more news about BJS the organization in the months to come.)

About Pastor Tim Rossow

Rev. Dr. Timothy Rossow is the Director of Development for Lutherans in Africa. He served Bethany Lutheran Church in Naperville, IL as the Sr. Pastor for 22 years (1994-2016) and was Sr. Pastor of Emmanuel Lutheran in Dearborn, MI prior to that. He is the founder of Brothers of John the Steadfast but handed off the Sr. Editor position to Rev. Joshua Scheer in 2015. He currently resides in Ocean Shores WA with his wife Phyllis. He regularly teaches in Africa. He also paints watercolors, reads philosophy and golfs. He is currently represented in two art galleries in the Pacific Northwest. His M Div is from Concordia, St. Louis and he has an MA in philosophy from St. Louis University and a D Min from Concordia, Fort Wayne.

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What do We Call It? Katie Luther Journal in the Works, by S. Zobel — 43 Comments

  1. Why not just put a “sewing/cooking section in Steadfast quarterly. and save some paper/postage. Or bandwidth, if it’s on line only.

    Cooking might even get some “co-ed” attention.

    LCMS had a good literary magazine, once; Jaroslav Vajda edited it.
    I liked it; it died for lack of interest.

    Perhaps you’ll excuse my dim view of things exclusively “feminine”… I’ve returned to LWML after 20+ years hiatus. They are still singing Shine, Jesus, shine and This little light of mine. The new wrinkle is Max Lucado for devotions. 🙁 🙁 🙁

  2. Gentlemen:
    Both better than “any of the above”!

    I don’t know what the “Burr” was supposed to mean.

    “Ribs” I understand. 🙂

  3. Katie’s Quarterly
    Lutheran Sisters’ Quarterly
    Katie’s Sisters Quarterly
    Christ and Home
    A Woman’s Life in Christ
    Faithful Woman’s Quarterly

  4. GF, They’re only claiming to imitate Katie Luther, not Mary!

    Katie, of course, birthed six kids; watched one or two die; ran a continual guest house for students and any other strays; kept a big garden and preserved vegetables; made the family’s beer and bread (and everything else; “Safeway” hadn’t been invented yet) owned a farm [herself] and was joked about for being queen of the piggery.
    Also she kept the family’s financial affairs in order, (or tried to; Martin wasn’t much help).

    I will be interested to see what parts of this “Katie’s sisters” intend to duplicate. 🙂

  5. How about “Docteressa”

    I also hope, considering the namesake of the organization, that they include a recipe in every issue;-)

  6. Tim:

    Is this journal going to be print or PDF online? Likewise, is there going to be any cost to access it? Thanks.

    In Christ,
    Rev. Robert Mayes
    Fullerton, NE

  7. Robert,

    Suzanne and I talked about that a few weeks ago and I do not remember the answer. I do know that we will be putting parts of it right here on the site as we have done with the Quarterly (which again I will state up front that we are really behind on – mea culpa, mea culpa, mea “most griveous” culpa). We are also working on a members only section to the website. Not sure if that will happen but if so, the entire journal would be available there.

    Those are some preliminary thoughts. More to come…

    TR

  8. One observation and two comments/responses:

    It’s interesting that it is the men who predominantly jump in to name this women’s publication.

    “The Burr” is a reference to Katie’s statement: “I will cling to Christ like a burr to a dress” (not sure that that is the very exact wording of the quote).

    The journal will be sent to all members of the Sisters of Katie Luther as part of their membership. We hope in the future to give an opportunity to choose to receive the journal in hard copy or (for those who have some environmental or paperless preferences) to receive it digitally. We also hope to allow subscriptions for those who may want to receive the journal but who may not be members of SKL. Selections from the journal will initially have some limited availability at the website to draw people into an SKL membership or journal subscription. The members only section that we are developing for the website would also have the journal digitally available along with journal “extras” for SKL members.

    Keep the suggestions coming!

  9. Revfisk’s comment reminds me of a favorite Luther quote:

    I said to myself what good wine and beer I have at home, and also what a pretty lady, or should I say, lord.

  10. Why the need for a separate ladies’ publication?
    Why can’t articles for both genders be incorporated into the Steadfast Quarterly???

    We are all Steadfast, be we men or women. There is neither slave nor greek……

    You see, I am severely disappointed in the LWML publication that is sent out.
    They promote Ablaze programs, and seem to foster this notion that the only way women can serve is by sewing quilts and selling them to raise money for missions…..um, women can do far more than just that.

    I do not want ANY BJS publication to turn into something like that.

    But, if it’s already a foregone conclusion that we’re going to have a separate ladies’ publication, over my objections, then please, please, please, entitle it something very Christ-focused–like Old Time St. Johns’ suggestion of “One Thing Needful”.
    The focus should never be on gender, but on Christ!

  11. How about something like “Martin’s Brewmeister”?

    She was, after all, reknowned not only for her hospitality, but for making a regional favorite brew… which while consumed, the Word did everything…

  12. @Joe Olson #2 re: “Helpmeet”

    No, no, no, no, a thousand times NO. See Debi Pearl’s book, “Created to be His Helpmeet.” (I’ll let you Google that if you’re not familiar with it. No matter how good it is, I will NOT read a magazine called “Helpmeet.” Debi Pearl and her ilk make me vomit.)

    Pastor Fisk is headed in the right direction, with “Homebrew” and Pr Batchelor’s “Martin’s Rib” is genius.

    “One Thing Needful” is also headed in the right direction. I also like “Christ and Home.”

    Other ideas, some sucky, some not so sucky:

    “Small Kate Articles” (Bad pun, I know. But I’m hoping that the ladies journal will be able to laugh at itself. One of the reasons the LWML publications drive me batty is they simply try too hard. It’s embarrassing.)

    “The City Gate”, a reference to Proverbs 31:23, “Her husband is respected at the city gate, where he takes his seat among the elders of the land.” (And that’s the only ref. to Proverbs 31 I’ll quote because the chapter is SO overused by American Evangelicalism.)

    “Katie’s Basement”
    “Katie’s Kitchen”
    “My Dear Katie”

    Helen, I understand your reluctance towards anything specifically “for women.” I actually share it. But! I happen to DESPISE cooking and have no interest in recipes. I wouldn’t mind articles related to house, home, our vocations at mother, wife, grandmother, aunt, teacher, boo-boo-kisser and butt-wiper. I would be disappointed to see a few recipes tossed into the BJS Quarterly as a token nod to women. I would be insulted, actually!

  13. @Heartbroken #19
    The focus should never be on gender, but on Christ!

    I share your opinion of the LWML Quarterly, Heartbroken.

    @Suzanne Zobel #17
    It’s interesting that it is the men who predominantly jump in to name this women’s publication.

    That should tell you something already about the level of interest in your projected subscriber list.
    [I thought I’d read quite a bit but your “burr” quote is new to me.]

    I like Joe’s “Katie-chism”, too! (Put in on an insert in the Steadfast Quarterly.)

  14. @Elephantschild #22
    But! I happen to DESPISE cooking and have no interest in recipes. I wouldn’t mind articles related to house, home, our vocations at mother, wife, grandmother, aunt, teacher, boo-boo-kisser and butt-wiper.

    Elephantschild:
    That was pure sarcasm! (Cooking for one is a pretty elementary job.)

    I find the possiblity of a “women’s mag” to interest all women problematic.
    I’ve had or been all the things you mentioned. (Except aunt) “Been there; done that!”

    “Lives of saintly women” … see LWML, among others. Spare me!

    Frankly, my most interesting conversations are with my sons and men their age.
    A “women’s” magazine is a put down… (although I might anonymously subscribe a few women around here who think it’s “so disappointing that Jerry lost the election”!)
    [That should explain my conversational preferences as well as anything!]

  15. Add me to the anti-“Helpmeet” group! It’s a word I’ve never liked, I wouldn’t mind if I never saw it again. [I develop an aversion to words that is hard to overcome.] Also, I am not quite certain as to the goals of the SKL. On this site, under “Description of the Organization,” it says “At this time [February, 2009] this organization is still being developed.” I haven’t heard anything since to shed more light on the group’s purpose, if you will excuse that word choice! What kind of topics will be addressed that would be of interest to just women? I find plenty of topics of interest here on the BJS site.

  16. Elephantschild:

    I have not read and am not familiar with Ms. Pearl’s book but obviously no one wants a title that generates that sort of reaction. Again, with knowledge of the book, I thought Helpmeet would be an easy way to signify a discussion of (among other things):”house, home, our vocations at mother, wife, grandmother, aunt, teacher, boo-boo-kisser and butt-wiper.” which you indicate would be a good thing.

    Apparently, this Pearl women has co-opted an ruined a perfectly good word …. too bad.

  17. Joe, it’s unfortunate, yes. I feel protective of those who have come into Lutheranism recently, and Pearl’s book is all the rage in some Christian circles: even though the word is good, using it would cause associations we don’t want, and it may cause some women quite a bit of pain.

    @Helen – sorry I missed your sarcasm! I’m not envisioning a “typical” woman’s magazine at ALL. Rather more something with plenty of meat in it. And yet, it’s true that there ARE topics that are unique to a woman’s calling, and I don’t have a problem with information related to that provided it presented in a non-idiotic, non-cutesy way.

    I’m excited about the possibilities, not so much of a little magazine, but of the organization itself. I want another option than LWML, which has gotten so far away from their original task of simply raising money for missions and instead has gotten so far INTO “empowering women.” (barf)

  18. @Janet #25 , what I would love to see is a sub-group that simply meets along with the guys – attends the same conferences, lectures, participates here, etc – but is a causal, loosely formed association. Not really separate from BJS at all. Informal. Relaxed.

    IOW, something that is more fellowship-related than anything else; the meat comes from our continued participation in what we’re already doing – reading here, going to the conferences and reading groups, etc. You’re right that us women don’t need dumbed-down articles. But is it so terrible that we might want to meet for coffee and dessert while the men play pick up basketball during one of the BJS conferences?

    And truly, I do not see that any Katie Luther publication or organization excludes the gals from reading the Steadfast Quarterly, reading and commenting here, etc. It’s not either/or, it’s both/and.

  19. Okay,
    so how about Hausbrau?

    (Ich bin ein hausfrau, aber fur dieser, hausbrau? Gut idea oder nichts?)

  20. Just a shout out to the gentlemen out there in John the Steadfastland.

    Do not be afraid or nervous about throwing out ideas, no matter what responses you may read. Being a “helpmeet”, is what we ladies were lovingly designed to be, it used to be the highest of aims & goals.
    Yet another example of a theological term being hijacked by culture or social theory.

    I’m kosher w/being a stay at home Mum, most in the realm in which I dwell, see it as “second class” or “giving up, or lazy”. No, that is culture, not Christ.

    And that goes for the “worldy” ideas of both genders. I’ve met quite a few from both who hold what I do as “less than”. But hey, that is only to the world, & since I am not part of it, what does it matter if it finds what I do or believe, distasteful. When wasn’t it?
    I think Katie’s Home Brew or Katie’s Hausbrau are great. Home is in there, & so is brew, not stew, but brew. Helpmeet, is one of my favorite terms, but let’s face facts, BJS cannot content to reteach Christendom on that term, so it shouldn’t be used. But any detraction from that blest term, should be handled post haste, by those who hold the authority to do so…..oh, yeah….that would be “mann”.

  21. Just out of curiosity,
    If anyone knows the Hebrew or Greek derivatives of “helpmeet”, this may be a great time to share them & their definitions.
    I think I know the Hebrew, but that is self taught, and that is nothing I’d be willing to post for posterity. Pastors, I think, still need to learn Hebrew & Greek, if not, they still have the translations or dictionary, I think?! Share & tell what they are, in Sola Scriptura terms, as ya kind of are, supposed to instruct. Not a challenge, rather a heartfelt request. I need a better answer than I’ve had to give thus far! lol

    If ya know, & can define, now is your chance, to undo a bit, that time, tide, & culture have taken away, from a blest vocation given by God Himself! That blest vocation & term that God changed Adam to bless & impart greater joy for, ya know?!

  22. –helen :

    LCMS had a good literary magazine, once; Jaroslav Vajda edited it.
    I liked it; it died for lack of interest.

    Jaroslav Vajda. What a blast from the past. I used to date his daughter in high school. Is he still alive?

  23. To Helen # 10. After reading Heartbroken # 19 That was my way of thinking, I meant the woman should behold Her (Mary’s) Son. My short idea didn’t show that, the Katie’s focus should be on Christ.

  24. Jen @ 36 – I am going to assume that you did not read the comments that followed my original comment at #2 – I did not know that someone had co-opted and ruined a perfectly good word. Read the rest of the thread and I think (I hope?) you’ll see that my suggestion was made in earnest , even if without a complete understanding of the recent use of the word.

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