Final Version of The United List

With the change of structure as voted on by the delegates earlier in this week, The United List had to make some changes to their recommendations to fit the new positions.

The Convention can help Pastor Harrison as he takes the reins of leadership in the LC-MS. He needs a support team. Tuesday saw the convention decide that the president needs pastors and laity in office around him who can work with him, share his vision and complement his style. They then gave Pastor Harrison a slate of vice presidents who will certainly work closely with him as he moves the Synod forward. Wednesday saw a Board of Directors elected that will work to support his vision. Thursday you can help with more people who can work with him by using The United List as a guide for your elections.

For delegates, pick up The United List from the gathering place in your hotel or on the second floor, to the right of the registration desk on the second floor of the Convention Center. You can also access it on The United List site by the pdf here.

About Norm Fisher

Norm was raised in the UCC in Connecticut, and like many fell away from the church after high school. With this background he saw it primarily as a service organization. On the miracle of his first child he came back to the church. On moving to Texas a few years later he found a home in Lutheranism when he was invited to a confessional church a half-hour away by our new neighbors.

He is one of those people who found a like mind in computers while in Middle School and has been programming ever since. He's responsible for many websites, including the Book of Concord,, and several other sites.

He has served the church in various positions, including financial secretary, sunday school teacher, elder, PTF board member, and choir member.

More of his work can be found at


Final Version of The United List — 7 Comments

  1. I’m still a little confused as to what happened with the LCEF deal today, since I was multi-tasking while listening to the convention [insert joke here]. Were there two nominees, or was Christian Preus the only one? I did catch the delegate mentioning that Christian would have no problems with the background check (and the reply).

  2. Has anyone from the floor asked questions ablut Ablaze! Fanning the Flame like “How much of that $58.9 million had to be paid in costs to raise that much money?” (I’m given to believe it’s over $20 million.)

    Also, with the number of mission startups that haven’t lasted even 5-10 years at a great cost/waste to the synod, from where did they get this arbitrary number to start up 2000 new congregations — and what guarantee do they have that those congregations will las more than 5 years? Over what time period will these congregations be established? Where will they find 2000 pastors to fill those positions? Starting a mission is not work for “amateurs.” Do they intend to staff those positions with ad hoc laymen with a minimum amount of training — and does that suggest that the efforts will be successful?

    After September, I hope that the only time that I hear the words Ablaze! and Fan Into Flame is in a report describing what miserable failures they are and that they are going to be discontinued.

  3. 1@boogie #1

    It appears to me that people were nominated from the floor for the LCEF Board in 2007 (Todays business, p. 388; Walt Dissen and Tom Buuck). No mention was made of any concerns then and no one made an issue of a change in law or policy.

    I understand the need for caution in the area of financial matters, but come on, we are talking about a quality legal mind and outstanding Christian layman.

    This one has a bad smell about it…

  4. Why won’t Districts, LCEF, or someone help small, struggling congregations that already exist? We have one small congregation in Hermitage (the only Lutheran congregation in Hickory County) and another in Buffalo (again, the only Lutheran congregation in Dallas County) that share a pastor. Even together they are unable to pay his salary. District has said they can or will do nothing, citing financial woes.

    I suspect, though I can’t prove it, that if these two confessional congregations were to die out, and someone wanted to start a pair of happy-clappy “Lutheran” congregations in their place, there would be plenty of money to start those.

  5. Norm,

    Could you lay out side-by-side the United List and the Jesus First list and note which recommendations from each of those lists have actually been elected to synodical positions at this convention?


    You are absolutely right. I hope that will change. I know that Pastor Harrison is sympathetic to small urban and rural congregations. He is not ready to let them disappear in favor of starting up dubious new “mission” congregations merely because there SEEMS to be the prospect of fast growth potential.

    Everything should be done to help congregations like those you describe — though in some cases it might be true that SOME congregations could merge, if possible, given the fact of modern transportation. In the old days, it might not have been feasible with a horse-and-buggy to travel 30 miles for Sunday morning worship (and their descendents might be fiercely attached to those dear little churches), though today it might be done.

    In any case, congregations like you mention should be preserved because once they are gone, no one is likely ever to bring them back. An historic congregation in hand is better than two mission congregations in the bush, no?

  6. @Rev. Joel A. Brondos #5 My husband and I travel nearly 30 miles each way to attend our church. While we wish it were closer because it is a burden in a major metropolitan area to get through traffic, it is still the best confessional church close to us. While there are certainly other congregations closer, they have all gone the JK way of happy clappy and are really don’t even resemble our practices at all. Merging can be a very good thing. At the very least, the synod needs to spend far less on outreach and lots more on care of the flock.

    @David Lininger #4 I think you are very close to the truth on letting smaller churches die out. So sad and so very wrong.

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