The BRTFSG Takes Another Serious Hit from a District Convention – Summary from Rocky Mt. District

President Kieschnick’s  Blue Ribbon Task Force on Structure and Governance has taken another beating from an LCMS district convention, this time the Rocky Mt. District. A summary of the entire convention  has been posted  on a blog titled  Colorado Rocky Mt. Guy.

In district convention after district convention President Kieschnick’s agenda is taking serious criticism, the Minnesota South convention being an exception, as Klemet Preus noted in his blog  here last week. It was interesting to note the difference between the bitter and cruel liberal reaction to Preus’ post vs. Preus own attitude. Preus humbly documented the defeat of the conservative cause which prompted several liberal commenters to pile on with fairly vicious attacks.

Check out the review of the Rocky Mt. district convention and you will see that a solid DP was re-elected (Rev. Randy Golter), a strong resolution was approved against the watering down of the office of the ministry that has taken place while President Kieschnick has been responsible for doctrinal purity in the synod as well as a description of another strong critique of the Blue Ribbon proposals. One of the key facts that came out in the mountains is that the BRTFSG has already spent $650,000, $250,000 on travel and $400,000 on a consulting firm. Once again President Kieschnick has proven that this is not your grandfather’s church. Your grandfather spent those offerings on mission work and not on programs and consultants.

The Task Force is taking a lot of heat at the conventions but it is still important that you weigh in on this. We encourage all our readers, liberal, moerate, conservative, etc. to go to http://blueribbonsurvey.org/index.php  to take the survey and register your opinion on these important matters.

About Pastor Tim Rossow

Rev. Dr. Timothy Rossow is the Director of Development for Lutherans in Africa. He served Bethany Lutheran Church in Naperville, IL as the Sr. Pastor for 22 years (1994-2016) and was Sr. Pastor of Emmanuel Lutheran in Dearborn, MI prior to that. He is the founder of Brothers of John the Steadfast but handed off the Sr. Editor position to Rev. Joshua Scheer in 2015. He currently resides in Ocean Shores WA with his wife Phyllis. He regularly teaches in Africa. He also paints watercolors, reads philosophy and golfs. He is currently represented in two art galleries in the Pacific Northwest. His M Div is from Concordia, St. Louis and he has an MA in philosophy from St. Louis University and a D Min from Concordia, Fort Wayne.

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The BRTFSG Takes Another Serious Hit from a District Convention – Summary from Rocky Mt. District — 14 Comments

  1. “…the BRTFSG has already spent $650,000, $250,000 on travel and $400,000 on a consulting firm. Once again President Kieschnick has proven that this is not your grandfather’s church. Your grandfather spent those offerings on mission work and not on programs and consultants.”

    Sadly true but beautifully stated!!

  2. Sadly, the watering down of the Office of the Holy Ministry was going on in the LC-MS long before President Kieschnick got into office, so it’s not completely fair to blame him for it. But it has certainly accelerated under him. But I also think a great deal of the problem is in our congregations & in American society as a whole which has no regard or understanding for this divinely ordained Office.

    After all, it wasn’t President Kieschnick who taught some of my former elders that the pastor was just a hired hand, sort of like a seed salesman, who if he didn’t work out, you got rid of him, so he could find more appropriate work, & then found yourself a better seed salesman!

  3. “Solid DP” is a relative term in the LCMS. Solid just means better than some other alternatives. Solid doesn’t imply that he’s actively dealing with Church Growth Movement parishes, open communion parishes, lay ministry, abberrations in the order of creation for teaching and liturgy and supervision within the parish, and such. Solid doesn’t mean that the district isn’t promoting Ablaze, a general pietism, or actively supporting confessional pastors.

  4. I would like to echo Jack Bauer. President Golter, while a humble man, often in the past has failed to take action, action on the very things Jack mentions, even when it was totally possible. I suppose that some in the RMD would consider him “solid” but I don’t think there is any proof in the pudding that he is such. Proof will happen when the congregations and their pastors in the RMD who practice totally open communion, who use hymnals and agendas not doctrinally approved are disciplined.

  5. “It was interesting to note the difference between the bitter and cruel liberal reaction to Preus’ post vs. Preus own attitude. ”

    Goodness, isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black. Klemet has been humble after the election – no one disputes that. But the vitriol and sour grapes writings after his article were mostly on the side of the “confessionals”.

    Just get over it – quit trying to get sympathy points. Klemet and his BOD majority over stepped and got it handed to them. There will be other conventions.

    Why not just try and see the error of your way and work with the new guys coming in?

    Gee – isn’t that a novel idea?

  6. Anonymous MNS Observer,

    You are wrong. The vitriol was not on the part of the confessionals on that string.

    No one is trying to get sympathy points. That is a typical liberal way of viewing things – as if it is all political. Instead, the point is to identify the virtuous things and folks in all of this. Klemet was very virtuous and his defenders on the string of comments were as well.

    Speaking of negativity, we noticed your words of criticism (“pot calling the kettle black”) and your closing sarcastic comment which apparently are above your standard of sour grapes and vitriol.

    TR

  7. Roger S. and Rt. Rev.,

    I will defer to your judgment on President Golter. I may have overstated it. Thanks for the correction.

    TR

  8. Don’t kid yourself – a lot IS political on both sides. Confessional Lutherans have been up to their necks in district and synodical politics in MN South for Years – back to the days of MN South Confessional Lutherans meeting south of cities way back in the 80’s.

  9. MNS Anonymous Observer,

    I am not sure what I would be kidding myself about. I am perfectly fine with things being political. Politics is what happens when 2 or more people have to make decisions to live together.

    The LCMS is quite political and that is just fine with me. We are a group of people who need to make decisions to function together. It is best when those decisions are informed and not just blnd shots in the dark. That is why we do alot of informing on this site.

    TR

  10. Why are the criticisms of Confessionals on this site always anonymous? I can see not sharing your last name or something, but if you don’t have the cahones to lay down your name, I wonder how serious you are about your position. And with what integrity you would fight for that position.

  11. “Why are the criticisms of Confessionals on this site always anonymous? ”

    Easy solution, Quinn M. – don’t say “Anonymous comments are welcome on this board.” If you don’t want them – then don’t allow them.

    The challenge of “not enough cajones to post my name” has about as much merit and deep critical thought as this sites comparisons of Walther vs. the website postings of theAlley.

    Wait a minute….

  12. MNS Anonymous Observer,

    I do not get the connection between anonymous postings and the comparison between how The Alley chooses to do church compared to how Walther chooses to do church. Can you explain that?

    Also, you have once again proposed a typical liberal solution to a problem. In this case you suggest a policy (no anonyhmous posters allowed) where we simply hope for virtuous behavior without having to make some policy.

    TR

  13. It is great that you had representatives from South Africa there. It is “funny” (or sad) that Synod admitted to spending $650k on this task force. Imagine if that check would have been handed over to the Bishop instead.

    J Nielsen

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