District Presidents: Here is Why People Are Turning to the Interested Laymen Survey to Give Input – Lines at the Microphones in Northern Minnesota and Hardly a Positive Comment, by Pr. Rossow

Here is a comment posted Saturday afternoon by Steve Bohler on  the story about the Minnesota North District Convention and the Blue Ribbon proposals.

One thing that was very encouraging to me was that at the Minnesota North convention, when we got to the discussion period there were long lines at the microphones. And, as I recall, every speaker except one was displeased with various aspects of these proposals. The voting delegate changes, the circuit changes, the district changes, the certification changes (here was the one who was in favor — and he was a new seminary grad!), name changes, and so on. If the task force were honestly seeking input, they would have to come away thinking that their ideas were resoundingly rejected. But that may be too much to ask…

Several District Presidents have asked people to not make use of the very public and transparent survey put out by some Interested Laymen. President Benke even told the interested laymen to “cease and desist” from making their survey public. This comment from Minnesota North makes it clear why people want such a venue to voice their opinion. The Blue Ribbon Task Force has been taking comments since January and it appears as though they sink into a black hole. They have taken surveys at four district conventions and have yet to publish any results and they have been taking comments on their website and have not made any of them public.

The comments from Minnesota North are quite typical. The Interested Laymen survey has had nearly 400 respondents already and  the proposals have up to 10 strongly disagree votes for every 1 strongly agree vote. There is a lot of sentiment against these proposals. When will President Kieschnick,  the Blue Ribbon Task Force and the Council of Presidents acknowledge this? It is no wonder they are not publishing the results of thier surveys or making the comments public.








About Pastor Tim Rossow

Rev. Dr. Timothy Rossow is the Director of Development for Lutherans in Africa. He served Bethany Lutheran Church in Naperville, IL as the Sr. Pastor for 22 years (1994-2016) and was Sr. Pastor of Emmanuel Lutheran in Dearborn, MI prior to that. He is the founder of Brothers of John the Steadfast but handed off the Sr. Editor position to Rev. Joshua Scheer in 2015. He currently resides in Ocean Shores WA with his wife Phyllis. He regularly teaches in Africa. He also paints watercolors, reads philosophy and golfs. He is currently represented in two art galleries in the Pacific Northwest. His M Div is from Concordia, St. Louis and he has an MA in philosophy from St. Louis University and a D Min from Concordia, Fort Wayne.


District Presidents: Here is Why People Are Turning to the Interested Laymen Survey to Give Input – Lines at the Microphones in Northern Minnesota and Hardly a Positive Comment, by Pr. Rossow — 4 Comments

  1. This is hardly a free and open dialogue! If the Task Force were genuinely interested in having these proposals thoroughly discussed and debated, you would think they would let comments, pro and con, be posted at their web site. The more that these proposals can be disseminated (like by making the *text* of the presentations easily accessible for copying and pasting), and the more that arguments for and against (not just for) can be brought forward and considered–well, that should make for more informed decision-making, right? Why, DP Benke ought to be making t-shirts that say, “It’s OK to Survey!”

  2. The *text* of the presentation is easily accessible to copy and paste from the survey posted by the Interested Laymen. And as a bonus you get the survey questions the BRTFSSG is presenting at the district conventions so that you can consider them in advance. The survey site wouldn’t be nearly so inviting if it didn’t provide something the BRTFSSG hasn’t.

  3. The survey has the numbers one through five to indicate our responses, but it was not marked as to which is most in agreement or disagreement! Your help would be appreciated. I want to give clear instructions to our laymen when completing the survey. Thank you.

  4. I can help with that .. on the page you get telling you about the survey before it presents the first question is the text:

    Please answer each question with one of the following:

    1 = Strongly Disagree; 2 = Disagree; 3 = Not Sure; 4 = Agree; 5 = Strongly Agree

    If you hold your mouse over one of the radio buttons labelled “1”, a popup will appear with “Strongly Disagree”; likewise 2-5 will popup what they mean.

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