All Bets are Off – Bethlehem, Renton Site Back Up Again, by Pr. Rossow

Well, who knows what is going on? The Bethlehem, Renton site is back up again. We will keep an eye on it and also let you know about any communication we have with synodical officials on this matter. We also enourage you to remain steadfast on this issue and do what you can to hold our synodical officials acountable.

About Pastor Tim Rossow

Rev. Dr. Timothy Rossow is the Director of Development for Lutherans in Africa. He served Bethany Lutheran Church in Naperville, IL as the Sr. Pastor for 22 years (1994-2016) and was Sr. Pastor of Emmanuel Lutheran in Dearborn, MI prior to that. He is the founder of Brothers of John the Steadfast but handed off the Sr. Editor position to Rev. Joshua Scheer in 2015. He currently resides in Ocean Shores WA with his wife Phyllis. He regularly teaches in Africa. He also paints watercolors, reads philosophy and golfs. He is currently represented in two art galleries in the Pacific Northwest. His M Div is from Concordia, St. Louis and he has an MA in philosophy from St. Louis University and a D Min from Concordia, Fort Wayne.


All Bets are Off – Bethlehem, Renton Site Back Up Again, by Pr. Rossow — 16 Comments

  1. Unbelievable. Can we assume by this, that the DP and the entire North West district have entirely abdicated their clerical responsibilities along with LCMS, Inc. in St. Louis? Where is Kieschnick now? He was sure there in the Benke situation, wasn’t he?

  2. What happened was their domain name was up for renewal and they didn’t pay until today.

    Information provided by “Who Is”

    Domain Name:


    Registrar: Tucows Inc. (R11-LROR)

    Expiration Date: 2009-12-16 22:33:40
    Creation Date: 2002-12-16 22:33:40
    Last Update Date: 2008-12-19 21:32:00

    Being a computer “geek” can have its advantages. 🙂

  3. The fact that the bio is still there means no action has been taken by the DP. That’s the real situation here.

  4. Thanks Jim. Guys like you and Norm just amaze the rest of us computer mortals.

    Pastor Rossow

  5. Left Coast…,

    It is quite ironic isn’t it. We will see if GK will eventually enter into this situation.

    Here is what the synod’s constitution says about the president’s duties.

    “3. The President has and always shall have the power to advise, admonish, and reprove. He shall conscientiously use all means at his command to promote and maintain unity of doctrine and practice in all the districts of the Synod.”

    While we are at it, here is what the constitution says about the duties of the district president.

    7. The district presidents shall, moreover, especially exercise supervision over the doctrine, life, and administration of office of the ordained and commissioned ministers of their district and acquaint themselves with the religious conditions of the congregations of their district. To this end they shall visit and, according as they deem it necessary, hold investigations in the congregations. Their assistants in this work are the circuit counselors, who therefore shall regularly make their reports to the district president.

    I guess so far we have some serious negligience on our hands.

    Pastor Rossow

  6. Is it negligence or acceptance? Since LCMS officials have been notified and nothing appears to have been publicly acknowledged or done about this, those officials must have no real problem with this church’s web site. They probably wouldn’t do anything if an LCMS congregation’s web site promoted abortion on demand either.

    They certainly don’t seem to be doing anything about the churches in synod which fail to proclaim Jesus on their web sites or in their worship services either. I’m not sure what they do or what kind of supervision they perform.

  7. Im new to this issue with the bio. It says former now did it say former in the previous website? Im not sure why one would want that as part of a bio on a church website but former may mean something. Perhaps repentance?

  8. Dave,

    Don’t you think that if he was a repentant homosexual that they would state that on the website? I that is the case then this is a simple fix. All they need to do is add that little fact to the website.

    Besides, on the music director’s personal website he promotes gay and lesbian activity. This is why we characterize this as problem of promoting gay and lesbian activity.

    Pastor Rossow

  9. There has been ample time here, between when the DP was first notified, and now, for them to have exercised their duty in discipline in regards to this church, the pastor, and the web site. It should have been removed the same day, at the insistence of the DP. Since it is still up there, what are we left to believe? As far as I’m concerned, this is now an issue of acceptance and not negligence and the synod hierarchy apparently means to do nothing about it.

    Kieschnick said, “this isn’t your grandfather’s church”. You said, it Jerry, you said it. It sure isn’t. And I’ll bet your quite proud of that, too.

    I’m going to end up joining the Catholics or the Orthodox. It’s all that’s going to be left to me.

  10. We’re certainly not putting the best construction on this. Perhaps the site was hacked by homosexual radicals. If we work hard enough, we could come up with an even more absurd “construction.” Whatever the reason for the info on their website, at the very least, it lacks discernment. Perhaps the reason for the delay in information from an eccesiastical supervisor is as simple an explanation as they’ve yet to come up with the right pious sounding phraseology that most certainly will include reference to the Eighth Commmandment.

  11. Scott,

    We’re all just being disruptive and causing dissent. We should all remember the eight commandment and not make waves. We should sit down and not speak unless spoken to from on high. It is as LCMS, Inc. would want it.

  12. “We’re certainly not putting the best construction on this. Perhaps the site was hacked by homosexual radicals.”

    “Al Gheyda” per chance?

    I know… had to go there. 🙂

  13. I did notice guys that the link to the organists website isn’t there anymore. Maybe they feel that will appease us but I’m not satisfied

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