Steadfast in Society: Ante Bellum

February 17th, 2013 Post by

Rediscovery #: 18437On April 12th 1861 one of the most famous battles in American History began and opened up the flood gates to the bloodiest and costliest war that America had ever seen. The battle of Fort Sumter started a war that would leave 625,000 Americans, on both sides, dead. Three days after this battle Governor John W. Ellis wrote a letter to Simon Cameron, the Secretary of War and to the administration of President Abraham Lincoln.

This letter read:

“For dispatch is read and if genuine which its extraordinary character leads me to doubt I have to say in reply that I regard the levy of troops made by the administration for the purpose of subjugating the States of the South, as in violation of the Constitution and a gross usurpation of power. I can be no party to this wicked violation of the laws of the country, and to this war upon the liberties of a free people. You can get no troops from North Carolina.”

This letter from Gov. John Ellis stood firm on what they believed was truly an outrageous act of tyranny from the government which was choosing to “not allow” secession. Whatever your view on who was the “good guy” or “bad guy” during the Civil War, I am sure that you can see the lines drawn even deeper in the sand when it comes to the 21st century’s civil war. As President Obama has cast his tyrannical mandate on the consciences of Roman Catholics he is not merely oppressing confessing Christians — he is, at the root, oppressing the American Constitution and the American people. And while this tyrannical move of the Obama administration tries to hide behind the label of “women’s heath” (a life statement) it ultimately leads to an increase in the number of deaths (via morning after pill and Ella) which will far surpass the number from the American Civil War.

This century’s civil war is a silent one. It is one that is fought by and against Christians everywhere, and it far surpasses politics. In the Second World War, it was an evil yet effective tyrannical move by Adolf Hitler to first attack the churches in Germany. That move was slow and silent. How is it possible to convince a nation that the elimination of a race is a good idea? Simple, tear down the church quietly, and you do so because the church is the only source of peace and hope in this world. Without the church we have Nazi Germany, but this time the Jewish people are not the target… voiceless unborn children are.

President HarrisonIn these times we must thank our Lord that we have been washed in the holy waters of Baptism and that we feast on the flesh and blood of Christ. It is only in the Lamb of God that we find our peace and not in princes (Psalm 146) or the majority rule. I thank God for the stalwart leadership of Rev. Matt Harrison who has stood in the face of the corrupt and the oppressive and boldly proclaimed God’s Word.  As we approach the one year anniversary of the voice of God’s Law being proclaimed by Rev. Harrison may we be restrengthened in our resolve for a pure confession and stand even more steadfast behind Rev. Harrison as he continues to proclaim God’s Word on our behalf to our nation.  To you, Rev. Harrison, I say, “Well done, good and faithful servant.” May we all stand with you and fight together for the vulnerable unborn. I, for one, will stand with the Church.  As for me and my house we will serve the Lord.

And to the continuing tyranny of the Obama administration with its encroachment on the free conscience, let us join with the voice of Gov. John Ellis and say, “We can be no party to this wicked violation of the laws of the country, and to this war upon the liberties of a free people. You can get no troops from The Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod.“






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  1. Carl Vehse
    February 17th, 2013 at 10:31 | #1

    After forty years of America’s approval of genocidal murder of 55 million children, you were expecting someone other than a traitor to eventually be elected, and re-elected?!?

    “You can get no troops from The Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod.”

    If the Missouri Synod contributes anything it should include imprecatory prayers to God for the destruction of such evil in our elected and appointed government offices… and electorate.

  2. Pastor Gaven Mize
    February 17th, 2013 at 12:45 | #2

    @Carl Vehse #1
    I agree that we should pray, “deliver us from evil.” We should also proclaim the Law from our offices.

  3. LW
    February 17th, 2013 at 12:57 | #3

    We send no troops in support of, but sadly our members must send tax dollars which help to fund this genocide. Lord have mercy.

  4. Pastor Gaven Mize
    February 17th, 2013 at 14:24 | #4

    @LW #3
    “Must” we?

  5. LW
    February 17th, 2013 at 15:36 | #5

    I guess it’s not a must that we pay taxes, but its a good idea if we want to stay in this country and be able to provide for our families without having all of our assets taken by the government to pay unpaid back taxes, interest and penalties. If we have an employer it also seems impossible to keep them from taking out taxes on our behalf. There are sales taxes we have to pay as well, though I am not sure if sales taxes go to help fund abortions.

  6. LW
    February 17th, 2013 at 16:05 | #6

    There is also the issue of Jesus words, “Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

  7. Pastor Gaven Mize
    February 17th, 2013 at 16:52 | #7

    @LW #6
    As well as the issue of “obeying God rather than men.”

  8. LW
    February 17th, 2013 at 17:17 | #8

    @Pastor Gaven Mize #7
    Very good point.

  9. Jim Hamilton
    February 17th, 2013 at 17:28 | #9

    I pray daily that God will remove from civil authority all wicked men who despise His Gospel and are party to the never ending abortion genocide in our country, as well as assorted other outrages. The lawlessness of the current regime is disturbing. I wonder how long faithful men who love the Triune God will be able to obey the government in good conscience.

  10. LW
    February 17th, 2013 at 17:35 | #10

    @Jim Hamilton #9
    Pray also that God would bring them and all of us to repentance.

    We can obey the government in good conscience up and to the point that it asks us to act contrary to God’s word. Government, like our parents, is a gift of God.

  11. February 17th, 2013 at 21:36 | #11

    LW :
    Government, like our parents, is a gift of God.

    This is most certainly true, and the abuse of that gift from God is what makes even more insidious what our leaders are leading us to do — to the babies.

  12. LW
    February 17th, 2013 at 21:37 | #12
  13. Carl Vehse
    February 17th, 2013 at 22:04 | #13

    “Government, like our parents, is a gift of God.”

    Yes, government is a gift of God, because government was our parents, and now it is us, and tomorrow it will be our children. We are the government God has given us.

    And as the government we have chosen (or consented to) our form of government. Under that form of government, we, the people (government), through various elected and appointed representatives, carry out constitutional duties in order to establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty on behalf of we, the governed. (I think I may have read that somewhere.)

  14. LW
    February 18th, 2013 at 00:21 | #14

    Romans 13:1-7
    Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, 4 for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God’s wrath but also for the sake of conscience. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. 7 Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.

  15. Carl Vehse
    February 18th, 2013 at 07:55 | #15

    Yes, LW #14, we, the governed, are subject to we, the government, who are the governing authorities. We, the government, are the rulers, and we rule in our form of government by means of elected and appointed representatives. We, the governed, owe respect and honor to we, the government, and the form of government through which we, the people, have chosen or consented to govern and to be governed.

  16. Jim Hamilton
    February 18th, 2013 at 10:21 | #16

    LW, we’re all familiar with that bit of Scripture. The question isn’t whether we should obey the civil authorities (we obviously should), but rather at what point obedience becomes impossible. Also, as Carl pointed out, under our Constitution the people are legally entitled to resist and replace the civil authorities if and when they become lawless and tyrannical.

  17. Carl Vehse
    February 18th, 2013 at 11:41 | #17

    @Jim Hamilton #16 “… as Carl pointed out, under our Constitution the people are legally entitled to resist and replace the civil authorities if and when they become lawless and tyrannical.”

    I don’t think I pointed that out in my previous posts. I have noted or implied that lawless and traitorous officials should be indicted, tried, convicted, and the sentence executed within the legal system of our Constitution, and that, as the government, we the people have a serious responsiblity to elect or appoint worthy people to positions within our form of government. Sadly it is a responsibility we, in our role as the electorate, have ignored and perverted for some time, as evidenced by many of those in public office.

    Rather than the Constitution, your comment about the people “entitled to resist and replace the civil authorities” may have been referring to the Declaration of Independence, in which the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly published and declared [on July 4, 1776, for those educated in a liberal public school], in part, “That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

    There have been no claims in my posts that we, the people, have reached that point again. It is my opinion that Pastor Mize’s article has not made such a claim either.

  18. LW
    February 18th, 2013 at 12:20 | #18

    @Jim Hamilton #16
    Is it possible for us to read God’s word too much no matter how familiar we are with it?

    We will just have to wait and see how far the civil authorities will take their rebellion against God before the church will no longer obey them.

  19. Jim Hamilton
    February 18th, 2013 at 12:26 | #19

    Right, I meant the Declaration. Thanks for the correction. My point was that resisting and replacing a tyrannical govt under our system would not necessarily be sinful. I don’t know if we’ve gotten to that point yet or if we ever will. I don’t think I suggested that you have an opinion on that question. I mentioned your post because you brought up the fact that we have a political system where the people are sovereign.

  20. Jim Hamilton
    February 18th, 2013 at 12:34 | #20

    LW, yes, I agree. We’ll have to wait and see.

  21. Daniel Broaddus
    February 19th, 2013 at 10:43 | #21

    Has anyone hear read Bertrand de Jouvenel? I believe that the inevitability of his point about the growth of power (from “On Power”) is more evident now than ever before. Also, some other good political theory to read and know when we talk about such things comes from none other Plato’s Republic. His description of democracy is very telling.

  22. Jeff
    February 20th, 2013 at 21:54 | #22

    In the meantime, let’s pray for our leaders that they may know God’s will. Paul wrote 1 Tim 2:1-3 under the reign of Nero, who, just like our leaders, Jesus died for also.

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