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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-274180&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Cradle Lutheran  #9 &lt;/a&gt; 

First, I didn&#039;t think the five services in the new hymnal were all that different form each other.  Yes they have variety, but I feel they have a certain ordos that runs through them.  I guess I don&#039;t see it as such a sytem shock that going from a traditional to a very edgy contemporary would be.

Also, my congregation, therefore my pastor&#039;s direction, is to use four of the services (not using #5) and rotate them seasonally, so that during different parts of the church year you follow the one service for a few months, and then the next, and then...  Maybe that can be a suggestion to your pastor.

At my previous congregation they did use all 5 for the lone traditiaonl service, but they ran through them all, so every fifth week you hit the service again.  A slower learning curve, but eventually more memory retention so after maybe a year, you just never really thought about a different service each week.  You just knew them all.

In the end, I guess a bit of adiaphora.  I hope you can find a method that works best for your congregation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-274180" rel="nofollow">@Cradle Lutheran  #9 </a> </p>
<p>First, I didn&#8217;t think the five services in the new hymnal were all that different form each other.  Yes they have variety, but I feel they have a certain ordos that runs through them.  I guess I don&#8217;t see it as such a sytem shock that going from a traditional to a very edgy contemporary would be.</p>
<p>Also, my congregation, therefore my pastor&#8217;s direction, is to use four of the services (not using #5) and rotate them seasonally, so that during different parts of the church year you follow the one service for a few months, and then the next, and then&#8230;  Maybe that can be a suggestion to your pastor.</p>
<p>At my previous congregation they did use all 5 for the lone traditiaonl service, but they ran through them all, so every fifth week you hit the service again.  A slower learning curve, but eventually more memory retention so after maybe a year, you just never really thought about a different service each week.  You just knew them all.</p>
<p>In the end, I guess a bit of adiaphora.  I hope you can find a method that works best for your congregation.</p>
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		<title>By: R.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>R.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 09:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Point of order, just because something is a part of the synod&#039;s hymnal does not make it error-free.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point of order, just because something is a part of the synod&#8217;s hymnal does not make it error-free.</p>
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		<title>By: Pastor Joshua Scheer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pastor Joshua Scheer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-274180&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Cradle Lutheran #9 &lt;/a&gt; 
The mixing you mention is pretty standard fare for the LCMS.  LSB introduced five different divine services, which was meant to allow for the various diversities in our Synod.

Does your church have &quot;non-traditional Sundays?&quot;

Switching services can be very confusing...

I don&#039;t know if I would call what he is doing &quot;errors&quot;.  They are a part of our Synod&#039;s hymnal.

Sorry that you have felt that you have no voice on the matter any longer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-274180" rel="nofollow">@Cradle Lutheran #9 </a><br />
The mixing you mention is pretty standard fare for the LCMS.  LSB introduced five different divine services, which was meant to allow for the various diversities in our Synod.</p>
<p>Does your church have &#8220;non-traditional Sundays?&#8221;</p>
<p>Switching services can be very confusing&#8230;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if I would call what he is doing &#8220;errors&#8221;.  They are a part of our Synod&#8217;s hymnal.</p>
<p>Sorry that you have felt that you have no voice on the matter any longer.</p>
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		<title>By: Cradle Lutheran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cradle Lutheran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pastor Scheer, Thank you for the response! What I mean by the mixing of the Divine Services is he will start out using Divine Service I and, especially if it is communion Sunday (we have Communion twice a month) switch to Divine Service III ... not that I mind that much (at least he&#039;s staying with the Divine Service on traditional Sundays) but it is very confusing for those attending that are not familiar with Lutheran services ... Have tried to talk to him about issues in the past but have learned he listens but doesn&#039;t correct his errors even if pointed out to him (and not just from me either). Have tried going to Elders as well. No dice ... they don&#039;t see anything wrong with what he is doing ... alas ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pastor Scheer, Thank you for the response! What I mean by the mixing of the Divine Services is he will start out using Divine Service I and, especially if it is communion Sunday (we have Communion twice a month) switch to Divine Service III &#8230; not that I mind that much (at least he&#8217;s staying with the Divine Service on traditional Sundays) but it is very confusing for those attending that are not familiar with Lutheran services &#8230; Have tried to talk to him about issues in the past but have learned he listens but doesn&#8217;t correct his errors even if pointed out to him (and not just from me either). Have tried going to Elders as well. No dice &#8230; they don&#8217;t see anything wrong with what he is doing &#8230; alas &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pastor Joshua Scheer</title>
		<link>http://steadfastlutherans.org/?p=16628&#038;cpage=1#comment-273979</link>
		<dc:creator>Pastor Joshua Scheer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 05:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-273696&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Cradle Lutheran #7 &lt;/a&gt; 
A pastor may preach from any of the three lessons, or even the appointed psalm.  Free texting is also useful on rare (RARE) occasion.  Some men strive to preach only from the Gospel lesson, but there is no such law or rule.  Your pastor may be trying to preach Christ from the Old Testament, a very worthwhile thing.

I am not sure what you mean by the mixing of Divine Services?  You may have to explain further.

I would suggest taking your concerns to your pastor about these matters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-273696" rel="nofollow">@Cradle Lutheran #7 </a><br />
A pastor may preach from any of the three lessons, or even the appointed psalm.  Free texting is also useful on rare (RARE) occasion.  Some men strive to preach only from the Gospel lesson, but there is no such law or rule.  Your pastor may be trying to preach Christ from the Old Testament, a very worthwhile thing.</p>
<p>I am not sure what you mean by the mixing of Divine Services?  You may have to explain further.</p>
<p>I would suggest taking your concerns to your pastor about these matters.</p>
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		<title>By: Cradle Lutheran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cradle Lutheran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too late! Just saw the bulletin for our church this Sunday ... Sanctity of Life service ... I have another question ... our pastor is following the lectionary as in the LSB, but for the past six weeks his sermons have been a steady diet of preaching on the Old Testament lesson ... is this normal for an LCMS pastor who says he is confessional? I don&#039;t remember it being done this way before but we are becoming more and more contemporary in our services ... even to the point of mixing Divine Services ... Thanks and forgive if this isn&#039;t the proper forum for this question!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too late! Just saw the bulletin for our church this Sunday &#8230; Sanctity of Life service &#8230; I have another question &#8230; our pastor is following the lectionary as in the LSB, but for the past six weeks his sermons have been a steady diet of preaching on the Old Testament lesson &#8230; is this normal for an LCMS pastor who says he is confessional? I don&#8217;t remember it being done this way before but we are becoming more and more contemporary in our services &#8230; even to the point of mixing Divine Services &#8230; Thanks and forgive if this isn&#8217;t the proper forum for this question!</p>
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		<title>By: helen</title>
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		<dc:creator>helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-273091&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Rev. Michael Trask  #3 &lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;i&gt;I’ve always seen “special sundays”… as outside forces seeking to insinuate themselves at the front and center of the most precious time that congregation has: Jesus serving us in word and sacrament.&lt;/i&gt;

Some things deserve mention; others, like this one, can certainly be included in the general prayer as well; still others are best served with a bulletin insert only, so as not to minimize the time spent on the readings for the day and the sermon.  IMHO, of course!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-273091" rel="nofollow">@Rev. Michael Trask  #3 </a><br />
<i>I’ve always seen “special sundays”… as outside forces seeking to insinuate themselves at the front and center of the most precious time that congregation has: Jesus serving us in word and sacrament.</i></p>
<p>Some things deserve mention; others, like this one, can certainly be included in the general prayer as well; still others are best served with a bulletin insert only, so as not to minimize the time spent on the readings for the day and the sermon.  IMHO, of course!</p>
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		<title>By: Pastor Joshua Scheer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pastor Joshua Scheer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 22:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-273148&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Rev. Mike Mathey #4 &lt;/a&gt; 
Amen.  

This link provides some a good commentary on exactly that - the Christian&#039;s obligation to take care of life, even if it is dropped on their doorstep:
http://priestlyrant.com/on-being-aborted/2513.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-273148" rel="nofollow">@Rev. Mike Mathey #4 </a><br />
Amen.  </p>
<p>This link provides some a good commentary on exactly that &#8211; the Christian&#8217;s obligation to take care of life, even if it is dropped on their doorstep:<br />
<a href="http://priestlyrant.com/on-being-aborted/2513.html" rel="nofollow">http://priestlyrant.com/on-being-aborted/2513.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rev. Mike Mathey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rev. Mike Mathey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 18:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would also encourage us not to forget to address &quot;sins of omission&quot; on Life Sunday.  Don&#039;t forget that the woman or couple who chooses life is very likely to require support beyond that decision, and who better than The Body of Christ to provide that support?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would also encourage us not to forget to address &#8220;sins of omission&#8221; on Life Sunday.  Don&#8217;t forget that the woman or couple who chooses life is very likely to require support beyond that decision, and who better than The Body of Christ to provide that support?</p>
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		<title>By: Rev. Michael Trask</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rev. Michael Trask</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 16:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Haven&#039;t done any special Sundays...other than when our missionary visits.... for years.   

I remember visiting Hohenschwangau (LCMS Headquarters)  as a 4th year seminary student.   They set us down in super-articulated chairs made by Porshe (we were told) and one guy listed off all the special Sundays that we were encouraged to do.   I remember sitting next to my buddy and laughing like a loon at how nearly every Sunday of the year was dedicated to a particular cause.  The one that really got us going was PMS Sunday  (later changed to TIM: Together in Mission) We lost it...regained our composure... looked at each other and lost it again....you know the cycle. I like to imagine that that incident led to the change of the name.      

Then when I became a Pastor,   the endless flow of special Sunday bulletin inserts started arriving.   They were almost as bad as the three-ring binders.    At least the three ring binders could be reused as confirmation notebooks.   What to do with all the special sunday inserts?   I did use some of them to level  a wobbly table once; another time I shredded them and added them to my compost pile;  but most of the time,  they went over the shoulder and into the bin unopened.  I really appreciated when they&#039;d have a sticker &quot;important blah blah blah sunday materials inside!&quot;   That made it easier  to file them properly.    

I&#039;ve always seen &quot;special sundays&quot;...  as outside forces seeking to insinuate themselves at the front and center of the most precious time that  congregation has:  Jesus serving us in word and sacrament.       

I agree with Matt that staying with the Lectionary gives ample opportunity to address various sins including abortion.   That&#039;s a much more organic approach which does not violate the call of the pastor and make him into some sort of huckster.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t done any special Sundays&#8230;other than when our missionary visits&#8230;. for years.   </p>
<p>I remember visiting Hohenschwangau (LCMS Headquarters)  as a 4th year seminary student.   They set us down in super-articulated chairs made by Porshe (we were told) and one guy listed off all the special Sundays that we were encouraged to do.   I remember sitting next to my buddy and laughing like a loon at how nearly every Sunday of the year was dedicated to a particular cause.  The one that really got us going was PMS Sunday  (later changed to TIM: Together in Mission) We lost it&#8230;regained our composure&#8230; looked at each other and lost it again&#8230;.you know the cycle. I like to imagine that that incident led to the change of the name.      </p>
<p>Then when I became a Pastor,   the endless flow of special Sunday bulletin inserts started arriving.   They were almost as bad as the three-ring binders.    At least the three ring binders could be reused as confirmation notebooks.   What to do with all the special sunday inserts?   I did use some of them to level  a wobbly table once; another time I shredded them and added them to my compost pile;  but most of the time,  they went over the shoulder and into the bin unopened.  I really appreciated when they&#8217;d have a sticker &#8220;important blah blah blah sunday materials inside!&#8221;   That made it easier  to file them properly.    </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always seen &#8220;special sundays&#8221;&#8230;  as outside forces seeking to insinuate themselves at the front and center of the most precious time that  congregation has:  Jesus serving us in word and sacrament.       </p>
<p>I agree with Matt that staying with the Lectionary gives ample opportunity to address various sins including abortion.   That&#8217;s a much more organic approach which does not violate the call of the pastor and make him into some sort of huckster.</p>
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